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hairyscotsman wrote:

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Hi guys first post so hello to you all.

The problem i am having is i am hearing all about the gain you guys are using and cant source that in UK.

I have found the ingredient list for P&G UK LIQUID SOAP and it includes Lauramine oxide which i believe is ammonyx lo but after reading posts from Chris and others i believe there may be other chemicals in the make up that will have a negative effect on th SH.

I have listed the ingredients that i have found

  • Aqua

• S laureth sulphate
• Alcohol denat
• Lauramine oxide
• C9-11 pareth-8
• S chloride
• 1,3-Cyclohexanedimethanamine
• PPG (polypropylene glycols)
• Dimethyl aminoethyl methecrylate/hydroxyproply acrylate copolymer cirate
• Parfum
• Geraniol
• Limonene
• Colourant

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 We need to know the percentages of the other chemicals! Lauramine Oxide is Ammonyx 

hairyscotsman wrote:

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Thanks for the reply..Unfortunately i dont have them . I will email p&g and ask them!

Am i correct in thinking i can put some washing liquid in bleach and if there is some sort of reaction then its not compatable or am i off the mark?

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 Yes, simply get a clear glass of bleach outside, and dump some in, then observe!

If it emits gas, or starts reacting, it is not compatible.

Do NOT breathe the fumes!

Problem solved. Have found a uk supplier of gain.Thanks for all your help. I will be joining your premium forum in the near future and look forward to learning from you guys.

Chris ..I just couldnt let the search for a uk product similar to gain go!!...I have narrowed it down to one product and have found compositions of the ingredients and percentages and wondered if you would be kind enough to give me your opinion.

I appreciate that the ethanol content stated at 1 to 5 % is stronger than gain at .1 to 1 % . Does this break down the SH at a faster rate and would it matter a huge amount if the mixture was to be used that day or indeed that job. The gain works out v expensive for me as you can imagine with shipping costs etc and just trying to find a handy alternative.

This product is also made by Procter and gamble. Here is what i could find.

S laureth sulphate 20/30 %
lauramine oxide 5/10%

alcohols c9-11 ethoxylated 1-5 %
Amines C10-15 Alkyldimethyl N-Oxides 5-10%
Ethanol 1_5%
S O Alkyl Ethoxsulph.fat.alc(aeo.6) 20-30%

Many Thanks