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deleted post cause I'd rather be part of the solution than problem 



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I was honored to be asked to help with moderation of this forum but, recent events have made me think that some changes are needed with the administration and moderation of this forum. I hope that posting my concerns and suggestions do not lead to me losing this position.  In my opinion, an administration/moderator needs to have an unbiased opinion And from what I see, this is not the case here. Personal grudges from the past are the driving force of a good deal of the moderation and deleting of posts and "banning" members Here. i understand that our members should be protected from "bashing" In promo posts and that doing so is cause for posts being deleted or edited as Chris stated in a recent post. This should hold true for all members and not just "a chosen few".  A perfect example of this is in a post made by Ron Musgrave. He was clearly making a promo post to promote an upcoming event But, the post turned out to be a "bashing" of both Ron's event and Bill Booz's integrity. the moderation/ admin team cannot be a cheerleader for some and the leader of a witch hunt for others all based on their personal opinion of someone or a group of people, we need to let those feeling aside for the good of the forum. When I first joined this forum, it was full of valuable information and help from a bunch of guys all working in the same trade. It has since dramatically changed into a hen house full of big opinions about who and what is right and wrong!  Lets get back to learning, teaching and networking, that's what a forum should be about! i don't want to offend with this post but, I feel something needed to be said. moderators and administration should act in the same manor that they expect the members to act. I think that this is the reason so many valuable past members has stopped posting on this forum.  Like someone suggested, posts should not be deleted unless they are using offensive language or bashing another member in promo posts. Maybe more than one member of the moderation team should have to decide if a post warrants being deleted so cooler heads prevail.  Again, I'm not trying to offend but just get things done on this forum in a fair and unbiased manor.



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Good post Eric.

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In the interest of peace, I will not go into detail, but i totally agree. Perhaps if some members would quit blaming everything on certain people with no proof a lot of this BS would disappear.

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Gary you are just as guilty of blaming people for things which you have no proof. Like the hateful unwarranted post about Bill Booze. Im appalled that Chris Tucker puts you in a position of authority while your bio pretty much sums of the hate thats in your heart. May you find some peace in your life.

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Another good post by ed t. You hit the nail on the head.

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Well said Eric. Personally I think this site has lost a lot of its luster and I'd love to see it regain its place. There is a lot of inconsistency and as you suggested, personal opinions that are best kept to email or phone conversations. I think this site would be a lot better if there were no members area or certifications. An annual fee for being allowed to post promo pics/links makes sense but the second certifications were tied in things definitely slowed down. They should be separate from the forum. Some people might have, but I have not lost a single job or even discussed RCIA certification with a customer. The notion that certified roof cleaners are better or more experienced than non certified members has clearly alienated people from joining or participating. The reason I haven't posted any promo pics this season is I don't want to direct my clients here where they can be exposed to a lot of things that don't represents myself or my company. Hopefully that will change cause I used to like participating around here.

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You guys make great points. I am with you 100%!

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Chuck, where exactly did it get hijacked? As I look back at this thread Eric is looking for the same resolve as the rest of some of us. The the 3rd post after Eric set the direction.

I don't want Gary to go. I think the guy is genuinely burnt out from this. I feel the same way with my sales. I love talking with people. I'm kind of busy now so my patience is thin. I was really hoping Gary would show up in South Jersey. Not just so I could kick the crap out of his body guard, just to prove a point, but I knew it would quell a lot of mis perceptions many may have about him. I was looking forward to a photo with Gary. I don't think your a bad guy Gary. I wish there were a solution.



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I am busy beyond belief, with serious employee problems, like one not showing up today, or even answering the phone!

It looks like I may have to go and work the ground today. 

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I think Ed,Mike and yes Art one of these guys should be a moderator. Why? These guys are busy,experianced business men. They are also regular guys who know B.S. when they see it and don't mind saying so. I have said there should be a vote for moderators even with term limits if Nessacary.....why are we avoiding putting one of these "MEN "on the job? Lets get this board back to reality!

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Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:

I think Ed,Mike and yes Art one of these guys should be a moderator. Why? These guys are busy,experianced business men. They are also regular guys who know B.S. when they see it and don't mind saying so. I have said there should be a vote for moderators even with term limits if Nessacary.....why are we avoiding putting one of these "MEN "on the job? Lets get this board back to reality!


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Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:

I think Ed,Mike and yes Art one of these guys should be a moderator. Why? These guys are busy,experianced business men. They are also regular guys who know B.S. when they see it and don't mind saying so. I have said there should be a vote for moderators even with term limits if Nessacary.....why are we avoiding putting one of these "MEN "on the job? Lets get this board back to reality!


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Roof Cleaning Palm Harbor FL 727 543 3276 wrote:

I call for a group hug!


 goodpost Yup! Eric started this thread out, in hopes of straightening a few things out.

Already it has taken on a bashing of another person, this time it's Gary.

I happen to have a great deal of respect for Gary and while I have heard those through the years say they want him gone, I have not seen anyone say "And I will take on Gary's workload" Or that they would even know how to do his job?

After the group hug, maybe this thread, which has been hijacked, can get back on track, with the original post.

I used to be probably the top fighter here and big on bashing AC and others in the group of followers he had.

You may have noticed, I'm not fightin' anymore. I don't feel well enough to waste time on that anymore and I got old, like all at once!



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Chuck, where exactly did it get hijacked? As I look back at this thread Eric is looking for the same resolve as the rest of some of us. The the next post after Eric set the direction.

I don't want Gary to go. I think the guy is genuinely burnt out from this. I feel the same way with my sales. I love talking with people. I'm kind of busy now so my patience is thin. I was really hoping Gary would show up in South Jersey. Not just so I could kick the crap out of his body guard, just to prove a point, but I knew it would quell a lot of mis perceptions many may have about him. I was looking forward to a photo with Gary. I don't think your a bad guy Gary. I wish there were a solution.


 I was wanting to meet Gary too in NJ. Same reasons. Shake his hand, a promo pic. Wouldve been nice to put a face with a name.



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Chuck, where exactly did it get hijacked? As I look back at this thread Eric is looking for the same resolve as the rest of some of us. The the next post after Eric set the direction.

I don't want Gary to go. I think the guy is genuinely burnt out from this. I feel the same way with my sales. I love talking with people. I'm kind of busy now so my patience is thin. I was really hoping Gary would show up in South Jersey. Not just so I could kick the crap out of his body guard, just to prove a point, but I knew it would quell a lot of mis perceptions many may have about him. I was looking forward to a photo with Gary. I don't think your a bad guy Gary. I wish there were a solution.


 

Hmmmm, not looking to argue with ya. Your'e a good guy too! smile
Maybe Eric wanted to see his post include things like bashing Gary?
I just doubt it. I think he had more upbuilding thoughts than that in mind?
But I've been wrong before, just ask my wife - if you have a lot of time to listen! biggrin



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