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An Apology To Dave Westerman

Kleen Roof and Exterior Cleaning · Dec 1, 2012

Chris, you are a great person, with a good heart. You are always looking for the good in people, and giving everyone a chance.

Dec 1, 2012

Look you got to be kidding me here! I don't really care what dave does or doesn't do but atleast lets cut the B.S. We all remember what he was accused of and what else has happened with Dave and this board and his other board. It's amazing you were able to get in contact with him so quickly and have him return here, who ever you used maybe they should work for the FBI. This board has let some GREAT people go for nonsense and you are bringing this man back? Well I know my opinion really holds no weight but getting back involved with this man is the worst thing this board has ever done. Again some of us remember the truth....I'm glad it came up before any renewls, this decission of yours Chris is definitely not in the best intrest of any member on here except maybe yourself. I would rather sleep with a pack of wolves that have not eaten for several weeks then to be associated with him. This is a horrible decission...bring real people back like A/C or Bill Booze that can benefit us! Not this guy! He didn't sell his stuff cmon don't think we are this stupid! This is really a shame just when I thought this board could'nt get worse! You are all big boys, watch yourselves don't be fools and good luck!

RCIA Founder

Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:
Look you got to be kidding me here! I don't really care what dave does or doesn't do but atleast lets cut the B.S. We all remember what he was accused of and what else has happened with Dave and this board and his other board. It's amazing you were able to get in contact with him so quickly and have him return here, who ever you used maybe they should work for the FBI. This board has let some GREAT people go for nonsense and you are bringing this man back? Well I know my opinion really holds no weight but getting back involved with this man is the worst thing this board has ever done. Again some of us remember the truth....I'm glad it came up before any renewls, this decission of yours Chris is definitely not in the best intrest of any member on here except maybe yourself. I would rather sleep with a pack of wolves that have not eaten for several weeks then to be associated with him. This is a horrible decission...bring real people back like A/C or Bill Booze that can benefit us! Not this guy! He didn't sell his stuff cmon don't think we are this stupid! This is really a shame just when I thought this board could'nt get worse! You are all big boys, watch yourselves don't be fools and good luck!

Charlie, you simply do not have all the facts, because if you did, you would realize that Dave is the one who got ripped off.

He lost nearly 2 grand buying and installing special order stuff on the trailer he has never been paid for, were you aware of that??

Dave is really into roof cleaning, and brings a lot of energy and dedication to the Forum. I fail to understnd why you glorify AC and Bill Booze ? If they had their way, we would have wound up Certifying Pressure Washing, or have you forgot ?

Or, have you forgotten about the Calcium Hypochlorite fiasco ?

Guest

Here we go.

Dec 1, 2012

Chris I remember Dave was acussed of running up a guys credit card? I also know of someone who "helped Dave "by sending him money. Somthings up Chris guy was banned all post gone and all of a sudden he's back? Somthings up that you need him for some reason and this is the deal you made with him. As far as glorifying AC or Bill Booze I don't recall them being accused of theft? They are still in business and also have a ton of knowledge, when you compare them to Dave its apples and oranges. What you have done is wrong Chris but it's your board I just don't like being lied to with the story you started this thread with. Having Dave back "out of the blue "stinks Chris, it feels dirty. But I don't think you really care anyway.

RCIA Founder

Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:
Chris I remember Dave was acussed of running up a guys credit card? I also know of someone who "helped Dave "by sending him money. Somthings up Chris guy was banned all post gone and all of a sudden he's back? Somthings up that you need him for some reason and this is the deal you made with him. As far as glorifying AC or Bill Booze I don't recall them being accused of theft? They are still in business and also have a ton of knowledge, when you compare them to Dave its apples and oranges. What you have done is wrong Chris but it's your board I just don't like being lied to with the story you started this thread with. Having Dave back "out of the blue "stinks Chris, it feels dirty. But I don't think you really care anyway.

I beg to differ Charlie. Dave Westerman has a lot of roof cleaning knowledge. Dave is also a prolific poster, who is capable of churning out fresh, relevant roof cleaning content, and tons of it. Remember, we are moving Charlie, to a new Forum. If, and I say IF Dave returns to an active Role, the content he is known for generating can help us immensley to get back to number one.

But regardless of all that, I like Dave Westerman, and I did him wrong by banning him. I am trying my best to undo what I did.

Trying to repair a relationship with an old friend, who's feeling I hurt!

True, he does have the Domain www.RoofCleaningInstitute.Com. I would like to have this domain for the new forum, but we already own www.roofcleaninginstitute.org

It don't really matter all that much.

Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Dec 1, 2012

It does seem like Chris is shootin from the hip a bit. It all couldve happened in more subtle manner.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning New Jersey on Saturday 1st of December 2012 11:45:47 AM

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I'm glad I haven't the foggiest idea about what Dave was accused of prior to these posts. I must have been off the board for a period of time, as I'm prone to coming and going.
But when Dave was here in the beginning and posting everyday, he made more informative posts than just about anyone here has before or since. He was always thinking ahead and trying to improve the service for everyone.

Although Bill Booze and I had our differences he was still a decent guy and good for the service. AC was only interested in his own gain, which is why he didn't mind trying to sucker people into the powder, even though he knew he was doing wrong, especially if he's as knowledgeable as his followers believed him to be. AC was narcissistic and terrible for these boards. Comparing him and Dave is ridiculous to say the least.

Jeff

Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC · Dec 1, 2012

Dec 1, 2012

Jeff I agree with you that pretty much all of Dave's post were great, very informative. Ï also know that you as well are a very knowledgeable person . With me it's about "integrity" You are known for "the company you keep" " Values and common decency for your fellow man, which I feel Dave has none of. I remember everything with what happened to Dave and some of it is first hand knowledge. That being said, to have him back here is not in the best interest of anyone here but perhaps Chris and his main reason was finally stated.
"True, he does have the Domain www.RoofCleaningInstitute.Com. I would like to have this domain for the new forum, but we already own www.roofcleaninginstitute.org"

And Jeff as far as A/C goes and his selling of certain stuff I don't know much about it because I never bought his stuff, but again I have no knowledge of him doing anything like what Dave was accused of. Bill Booze a real nice helpful guy and again I have never heard a bad thing about him.

Chris "if and when"you say Dave is back, his title already reflects his position. Like I said it means nothing what I have to say about it, so he's back on here. But again it's about the company you keep and that's not the type of company I keep. So Chris for those of us who still remember and like I said I watched it first hand before it even surfaced, its the wrong decision,the wrong message this board is sending out...Rcia has a dirty feeling to it now.

Guest

I say let the members vote to either let dave back or not since we are actuall paying members we should have some say.

Dec 1, 2012

Mike it would never work because all the people who "know " are old timers and they have left or are banned. The new or younger guys have no idea about the "fox in the Hen house " This place is a busines like any other business, its to make money for them and they will do what they have to do to achieve that. The best is that he will get paid.....Thank God not with my money!

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I agree pat. I will probably not renew my membership if he stays and keeps that title. Now if he stays but is just a regular member with no authority then its not so bad.

As far as AC and Bill Booze they were way better than dave as for helping out. Now remember that AC is a vendor so yes he will encourage you to buy his products but you have the choice not to.

I also remember dave trying to get all the members here to leave and sign up over at his board and then suckering everyone into buying the 1800 service he had that the actuall person buying the counties and then having to do all the advertising themselves and buy all the signs, it was ridiculous and it never worked and people lost money on it.

That is what I remember. Along with some other personal stuff. He did help me out but he also lied to me too.

garyw · Dec 1, 2012

OK guys, I jumped the gun a little in changing Dave's title thinking there would be NO debate over this. I have since changed it back til this is settled. Now everybody calm down and lets NOT make this an instant replay of last January. (remember that). We can work this out as adults when the true story is learned.

I could care less one way or the other, I just want the peace to remain like it has for the last 10.5 months. Hope you all have enjoyed it.

Have a GREAT holiday season. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Gary

Guest

Why else bring him on as the certification ambassador. He wasnt even here when we started the certification that we have now. Its all about the domain.

Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Dec 1, 2012

Happy Hanakuh Gary. This forum is loooong over do for creating a good backlink for its paying members. This will create more wealth than anything. This should be the focus. Not certification.

dollarspa · Guest

I don't believe anyone was chased off of rcia ........people get mad and leave here..

people leave

pwi .

..pt state .

..the grime scene....and that's okay....

I will say one thing .......their is not one son of bitch ....who has done more for this industry ....without asking for anything in return than chris tucker....

It disappointing to read slaps about rcia on other boards.........because its a attack on Chris tucker..don't like it ....

Edit; .....I forgot to mention ....nobody has given more than Chris tucker...........no one......... period.

-- Edited by dollarspa on Saturday 1st of December 2012 08:19:28 PM

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Gary I seen on Dave's merchant circle page that you wrote a review about him being a con man so I would think you would be against him coming here.

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I petition to bring bill and art o back too. How do we make this happen. While were at it let's bring the guru AC back too.

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