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RE: Can Anyone Help Me Contact Dave Westerman ?

Dave Westerman · Guest

Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:
Incredible.........

Hi Pat of Charlie's Roof Cleaning.

I am not going to, at the moment, go down to your level and begin bickering. I'll keep this short and sweet. I will try to keep the board clean, out of respect for others who have tried equally hard to keep this a place where a homewoner could go and find useful information for the purposes of roof cleaning, and to preserve positive long term page rank and which is why I have come on with my personal name, not as a big shot, with a title, at the moment, or with my former post count, because, I want to simply set the record straight. If you and if there are others here who don't think my experience can be of benefit then I may again, leave, depending on this post and any concerns voiced.

Since you seem to be the only one here, so far, carrying a chip on your shoulder I will address you, as your comments are disturbing.

I have listened to your concerns and I will just say that I will not debate with you online, other than a simple 1-2 KNOCKOUT.

For me, all I want to ask you Pat, and ANY others is, let's keep this straightforward and simple.

Kindly provide written proof of your accusations now, or, put up or shut up and stop the nonsense. "Heresay", and "trickle down" gets VERY diluted REAL QUICK, and if its not real don't invent it.

Dave Westerman · Guest

Roof Cleaning Long Island New York (631) 220 6985 wrote:
Hi Dave, its been awhile for the both of us, good to be back

Hey Vinny,

Its been what seems like forever. Hope you and your business are well and prospering. Good to hear from you. Keep in touch sometimes?

Dave Westerman · Guest

Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 wrote:
Yea, I always liked Dave , he was one of the first guys her and was very knowledgeable,..little long winded is all,ha,ha....

Jeff

Hey Jeff!

Thanks for the comment. I always like you too! And yes, I can be long-winded.

What I lose and come up "short-winded" with industry related, asthma and COPD now, I have tried to make up with words, LOL

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Ha,Ha, although long winded posts,..I always read them the whole way through. Was always informative and worth the 5 minutes of reading,Ha,Ha...

Jeff

Dave Westerman · Guest

Hey Guys. My personal vision is simple:

My hope is to move forward and lets make the RCIA the best it can be. TOGETHER. Regulations have changed, DOT has added new regulations, FEMA has instituted changes to hazards of over the road chems. Roofing manufacturers have updated changes to their shingle lineup. New processes have been developed. More community is needed. Less divsion, more unity and positive focus on the REAL issues concerning the industry need our attention.

Lets try to focus on what we can all do to make the industry better, not drag down others for "personal gain" or whatever reason?!

RCIA Founder

Dave Westerman wrote:
Hey Guys. My personal vision is simple:
My hope is to move forward and lets make the RCIA the best it can be. TOGETHER. Regulations have changed, DOT has added new regulations, FEMA has instituted changes to hazards of over the road chems. Roofing manufacturers have updated changes to their shingle lineup. New processes have been developed. More community is needed. Less divsion, more unity and positive focus on the REAL issues concerning the industry need our attention.
Lets try to focus on what we can all do to make the industry better, not drag down others for "personal gain" or whatever reason?!

Dave, you mentioned a PDF File bad mouthing the way most roof cleaners clean roofs that was sold on Amazon! Please post a link to it.

And, welcome Vinny!

Liberty SoftWash · Dec 2, 2012

Welcome back Dave

Dave Westerman · Guest

I will also, say this. I am here to help do my part to ramp the RCIA back up, if possible. To kick it into another gear. And yes, no bones about it. I want to see some compensation for my efforts ...this time. I will not work again..for free. If I can "bring it", then I, and anyone else who "brings it" should not EVER work for charity.

The RCIA is NOT an non-profit. Neither are ANY of the businesses on here that I know about.

I may take own the gig as Director of Roof Cleaning Director of Training, if I can bring a BEST PRACTICES , BEST METHODS approach to standardizing the most common roof cleaning methods, as per our combined vison,but, I will not do it if there are those here that REALISTICALLY, not hypothetically, think it would somehow damage or harm the industry or the forum.

Despite what some may think (its too bad and most of it unfounded), I really do, deeply care about the ROOF CLEANING industry I love and help build its roots. And, only want the best for those of my peers who are serious about it and its future, be you a "new school" cleaner or an Old School Veteran.

I would like to, since it is winter and a slower time of year, hopefully bring some fresh perspective to others from a guy who hasn't been on RCIA for a while and who may have some "new ideas". You all are full grown men (and women?).

If you find my insight and any ideas useful, great.

If not, .......... don't read it or don't use it. Simple.

I have learned one thing though through all this.

This is my few unsolicited words of wisdom for the day:

If its a time suck, WHATEVER IT IS and it doesn't work for you or make you a more profitable business or business owner then, DON'T USE IT, DON"T DO IT, what ever it is.

"Time sucks" are all around as just as "energy sucks" are as well. If it brings you down and you keep on, keepin' on. It's on YOU.

It it ain't working for you or your business. Change it....period. At the end of the day, its the ONLY way to be true to yourself and your business.

Have a good day, all :) I'm Back to fall leaf raking ...what fun ;(

Dave Westerman · Guest

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:
Dave Westerman wrote:
Hey Guys. My personal vision is simple:
My hope is to move forward and lets make the RCIA the best it can be. TOGETHER. Regulations have changed, DOT has added new regulations, FEMA has instituted changes to hazards of over the road chems. Roofing manufacturers have updated changes to their shingle lineup. New processes have been developed. More community is needed. Less divsion, more unity and positive focus on the REAL issues concerning the industry need our attention.
Lets try to focus on what we can all do to make the industry better, not drag down others for "personal gain" or whatever reason?!
Dave, you mentioned a PDF File bad mouthing the way most roof cleaners clean roofs that was sold on Amazon! Please post a link to it.
And, welcome Vinny!

This was the book I was referring to Chris.

This is just my take on this spin....

This guy is exposing to the homeowner all the senseless bickering and non-sense that goes on in the roof cleaning and pressure washing industry. I am tired of us spending our energy on less important topics than the REAL issues that face our industry today like government regulations, EPA crackdowns, and DOT trailer and truck guidelines and new rules.

These are THE REAL ISSUES what effect us all and what professional roof cleaners should be spending our limited time on.

Based on my survey of whether or not I should continue writing my book 3-4 years ago this guy cam on here and took a lot of, Chris's, mine and others posts and created this. (just my opinion)

Go to see this: This is one of the reasons we couldn't have a open forum. because of the "crud" we generate with fighting, speaking out negitively amoungst ourselves.

http://www.amazon.com/Before-After-Homeowner-Crossfire-ebook/dp/B0055DI8RY/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1354475802&sr=1-1&keywords=Roof+cleaning

Dave Westerman · Guest

Roof Cleaning By A&E wrote:
Welcome back Dave

Hey Eric. Glad to be back. Hope you and your business are doing well. You and your family have a happy holiday season buddy.

RCIA Founder

Here is the roof cleaning book that dave westerman spoke about, in an easily clickable link

Dec 3, 2012

Look Dave as far as I am the only guy who has a problem with you on here, think again it's just I don't mind speaking out about it. As far as "Actual evidence "of what you have been accused of we would have to dig up a lot of old members, and the post with the information are also gone. As far as you being back here I have no control over that, but let me share this. A leopard doesn't change its spots you can write all you want but your are still the same old Dave. So you can reply if you want but remember this, You can lie to me but don't lie to yourself, but in your case it may be to late.

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smile Hi Chris hope all is well, and thanks good to be back

RCIA Founder

Roof Cleaning Long Island New York (631) 220 6985 wrote:
Hi Chris hope all is well, and thanks good to be back

And welcome BACK to the RCIA Vinny!

LOL, you are here, just in time for the move to our new forum! Wait till you see it Vinny, it is a feaking awesome Forum, you and everyone is gonna Love it!

gutterdog · Dec 3, 2012

I really dont know what to say here. Who is Vinny? I thought I was an old timer here too.

Dave if you dont have any evil or selfish thoughts. Welcome back man.

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smile Sounds great Chris, can't wait to see it and get back to giving and recieving some knowledge here ,from some great roof cleaners !

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