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Green Ultra Gain Original Scent  really smells nice. LOL, I was out of Shampoo a few weeks ago, so I diluted some down 50/50 with water, and filled up a shampoo bottle with it. It works great! Hell, Liquid Prell Shampoo is sort of the same stuff. It really smells great when the rain rinses it off of a roof you have cleaned too. It does seem to mask the Chlorine smell somewhat.

tryed Gain on my last 2 roofs. It worked great, could smell the gain and the soaping action was great. The masking was good but I will add a little more next roof. 

white fox wrote:

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Hey we have always just used-Not Gain but store brand dish soap. I love it with the easy to buy, care and use bottles. No measuring or needing to find a place for a bucke. When I first started I bought a bucket of AMOX but hated laying out that much at one time. Also I like the FREE scent additive

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 Hello Chet, good to see you back posting again! I hope you had a great cleaning season.

The RCIA Forum is a dedicated roof cleaning forum. Some years ago, myself and several other roof cleaners pioneered Chlorine Stable Surfactants, and introduced them to the roof cleaning world, by telling several distributors about them. Billy Jensen, of H2o Pressure Washing in New Port Richey Florida found Lauramine Oxide, that is sold under the trade name Ammonyx LO. I found Myristamine Oxide, sold under the name Ammonyx M. Lori from Pressure Washer Products (PWP) here in Florida was told of our research, saw the great marketing opportunity to sell it to roof cleaners, and jumped all over it. She sold the living shit out of both of these products, and initially called Myristamine (Ammonyx M) her "Apple Butter" to convey to customers it was thick, and to "Honor Me" she said. 
I never asked for, nor did I receive, anything for my discovery. For reasons unknown to me, she stopped calling it Apple Butter, and renamed it Gription. 
Lori was soon copied by some distributors I also told about the RCIA Research into Chlorine stable surfactants, and the Discoveries we made. I did not think it fair to the other distributors to tell Lori, and not tell them. 
I also told Lori about the RCIA research into masking the smell of the Chlorine based roof cleaning mix we all use, and even told her what it was, and where to get it. Because Lori and Pressure Washer Products donated money to help pay our Forum Bills, I decided to sort of keep the masking the smell of Chlorine Research, and where to get it from, to myself. Eventually, I also shared that information with a few other distributors. 
Now, I am sharing my latest discovery, Ultra Gain Green Original Scent Liquid Dishsoap with every roof cleaner. There is no money to be made by a distributor re selling it anyway. In fact, it is going to put the big Smackdown on resellers of Lauramine based (Ammonyx) Surfactants. Remember, Gain HAS Ammonyx (Lauramine) IN it! 
In fact, The Gain is SUPERIOR, for roof cleaning use, to straight Ammonyx based Surfactants, and here is why. Though Non RCIA Members can't see it (Yes, we hide the good stuff), I posted a Surfactant Viscosity Chart that clearly shows HOW to use Chlorine Stable Surfactants together, to get a thicker final product! Gain is a Chlorine Stable Surfactant MIXTURE, thus it will thicken up your mix better then Lauramine (Ammonyx) alone! And, it gets even better (and worse for sellers of Ammonyx), because Gain also has a very strong Masking Agent in it as well! No, it is not QUITE as good as a separate Chlorine Masking agent like the Green Apple fragrance some distributors sell, but if you use enough of the Gain Dishsoap, it is surprisingly effective in covering the Chlorine smell! 

It is not my intent to hurt any distributor selling Ammonyx (Lauramine), though some of you, for reasons only YOU know, chose NOT to give ANY credit to me, or the RCIA Guys, for our discoveries we acheived through hard work, personal financial outlays, and chasing many many dead ends, until we found what some of you now sell, and profit from, as IF it is your "Own".. 

Well, guess what, the freaking Party is OVER. 

The Gain makes Ammonyx obsoete, because it is a lot less money, and works and smells better.
But because I am a nice guy, and I know some of you have invested considerable money in re selling Ammonyx, here is what you should do.
There is an inexpensive chlorine stable surfactant that you can get, and if you combine it with Ammonyx, it will yield a nice and thick (thicker then Gain) surfactant that will be better then Gain, as far a cling goes. However, it will not have the smell masking capabiliies that Gain does. 

OR, better yet, sell off your Ammonyx, while you still can, and switch to Myristamine! Mryistamine is MUCH better then Ammonyx. If you are buying drums of Ammonyx LO, then simply ask for Ammonyx M, it is a brand name for Myristamine.

It is 4 times as thick, meaning you can use a lot less.

Apex Roof Cleaning wrote:

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Great info Chris, I am sitting on my drum of roof snot, but I wish I had known about the GAIN earlier. I was thinking about mixing some gain and my roof snot, but I'd rather use up all my roof snot and then use the GAIN.

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 Yes, by all means mix some roof snot and Gain together! Take some Gain, and add in a little roof snot at a time, and stir, noting the thickness increase. It should keep getting thicker, until a point is reached where it will thin out again.  

I used Gain on the last 2 roofs I did this season. I found it worked good, I will use it next season. As far as the masking the smell it works good, but I find roof snot and pinalen masks the smell a little better. I had a  customer tell me they liked the smell of the roof mix. But the beauty of it is that Gain ca be bought anywere. 

I like the smell of gain, I just think Pinalen masks the smell better. I will use both this coming season, it is nice to have options. I will ttry anything as long as it works

paroofguy wrote:

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We took Chris up on this advice and I really like the added cling and cleaning power. Something cool about soap suds filling gutter lines too! I like having the detergent in the mix so when I hit areas that have both stains and dirt, it comes cleaner.

We used it on two really steep jobs and the cling was as good as the other things we have used. I like walking into a local store and grabbing it as needed... We also were using it in temps as low as 40 degrees and blowing winds, so we have not seen any negatives at this point.

8" snow today has slowed my immediate plans to shoot another roof anytime soon over here in Western PA...

We will have to content ourselves with a rebuild on our box truck.

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 Now, thats what I am talking about! The soap also lubrictes your pumps, not a bad thing. I like cheap and simple guys, grab it off the shelf, as needed, mix it in your tank, and go clean something, with change left over from a 10 spot!

No waiting for UPS, no pumping cold soap out of a 55 gallon drum, no hernias from wrestling with a 5 gallon pail, and no second mortgage required to buy it!

My kind of Chit 

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

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paroofguy wrote:

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We took Chris up on this advice and I really like the added cling and cleaning power. Something cool about soap suds filling gutter lines too! I like having the detergent in the mix so when I hit areas that have both stains and dirt, it comes cleaner.

We used it on two really steep jobs and the cling was as good as the other things we have used. I like walking into a local store and grabbing it as needed... We also were using it in temps as low as 40 degrees and blowing winds, so we have not seen any negatives at this point.

8" snow today has slowed my immediate plans to shoot another roof anytime soon over here in Western PA...

We will have to content ourselves with a rebuild on our box truck.

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 Now, thats what I am talking about! The soap also lubrictes your pumps, not a bad thing. I like cheap and simple guys, grab it off the shelf, as needed, mix it in your tank, and go clean something, with change left over from a 10 spot!

No waiting for UPS, no pumping cold soap out of a 55 gallon drum, no hernias from wrestling with a 5 gallon pail, and no second mortgage required to buy it!

My kind of Chit 

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 +1!