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Onarooftop wrote:

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You are wrong with both of your guesses. The info is on one of my
websites-Brink kanga roof

I am doing what #12,13,16 on your RCIA 50pt standards says I can do.


Sorry you have met a lot of bad roofers. Most of the good and
honest people in the roofing industry aren't found in bars.

Your whole sales pitch is off of two ARMA bulletins that do not say what
you are claiming they say. Read them word for word like I said earlier.

I understand you are using them both as a sales tool. No problem, just don't start believing
and telling me it says something that it doesn't.

If you click on make an appointment on my website, you will see that they can make an appointment
under (roof Cleaning / Roof Repairs / Roof Replacements / or warranty appointment)

If someone chooses a roof cleaning appointment, then I understand that is what they want or think
they want.

but I recommend whatever I believe is in the best.
interest of the homeowner and then let them decide. Everybody should show
video's and pictures to there customers. Otherwise they are making decisions
on something they can't even see. I say don't make the decision for them.

If I went to a home that had green shingles only a year old and they wanted me to
remove the and put on white ones. That is there decision. Do I say, no it's only
one year old and argue. Call them nuts. Make them feel stupid. No, it's there money.
If that's what they want to do then that's fine with me.

Educate the homeowner - do a good inspection - show them all of the inspection results -
Give them some options and let them choose.

Example - Leak in a valley - Roof is 12 yrs. old. Roofer 1 says I will fix it for 200 bucks and
uses some tar and mesh.

Roofer 2 says I'll do it for 1,200. I'll remove the shingles and install a new valley with ice guard/etc.


Who's ripping them off- Roofer 1 comes back once a year for the next 8 yrs. (20yr. roof) (1,600) without inflation.'
or even worse they end up noticing 5 yrs. down the road that it is leaking again. So now...factor in the drywall damages
and insulation that is ruined etc.

Roofer 2 gave them a warranty that would last them 8 yrs. for (1,200)
What's sad is 90% of the roofing company owners are choosing #1 and not offering #2.
That's a scam if you ask me. Offer them both. Don't decide for the homeowner or you are a pushy salesman.

I like your video, but doesn't that solution/spray become slippery when you are walking directly on it? Especially
when it is shown from the side view in the end. Looks steep from the side view.


Click here and you will see where they sell what I refer to as a spider cleaning machine

 

I just call it spider because I think it sounds better.  I also don't shoot the chemical out of the machine.  Instead

I use back pack sprayers.  The specs for the machine comply with the RCIA 50 pt.  number 12,13, and 16

-- Edited by Onarooftop on Thursday 20th of September 2012 10:48:39 PM

-- Edited by Onarooftop on Thursday 20th of September 2012 10:51:24 PM

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OK. Like I said before, you can keep cleaning roofs in 4 seperate steps and coating them afterwards, like you have been doing. Or, learn to do it in 1 - 2 steps, like we do. Most of us can do a 2500 square foot [ under roof ] home, with a shingled roof in about an hours time ON THE ROOF and 2 hours drive up / drive away time. On average that is.

CONSIDER THIS DUMB SCENARIO:

If I went to "ROOFERS FORUM OF AMERICA" and posted:

"I am a new member here and I have been putting roofs on recently, I have been a roof cleaner for years.

My process, just starting out is to:

#1. Paint the plywood with aluminum roof coating.

#2. Carry my nails in my pocket and I use spikes, so they hold better.

#3. Then I use latex caulking around all the pipes and vents.

#4. Lastly, I water the roof with a garden hose and ask the homeowner if they see any leaks.

The roofers would give me a hard time and if I fought back and said I came there to learn, while defending my methods and quoting their list of standards back in their face, I would never get help, just insults. I would soon be a joke and they would hate me.

THE ABOVE PROCESS IS A JOKE OF COURSE.

As a roofer, perhaps you can imagine a more plausible, yet wrong way someone could go about roofing, that you KNOW much better ways to accomplish the job, if he would just ask nicely, like:

"I am new to roofing. I have been doing this process yada yada yada, so far. Could someone help me get started out properly? I sure would appreciate it. I came here because I figured my current method was improper and lengthy.

Then, maybe some roofers would be willing to teach me the ropes.

We are "Non Pressure" No Pressure" roof cleaners and your method does not fall into our knowledge base as being reasonable - as you may have noticed.

If you had started out asking for help and not defending your own method in 300 word posts, I as well as most others here, would have laid out the process and directed you to every item you need. Another new member just posted:  "HELP"

{ Frank is his name } and was very humble about it.

I posted everything I could think of to get him started and told him once he had those items, I would gladly teach him how to build a gun and give him further tips.

He wants to actually clean roofs the RCIA way.

If you should decide to start over here, I would be glad to help you start doing 3 roofs in the time you are doing 1 now.

I hope you are not too proud to humble yourself down a bit and let us help you out. Otherwise, you will have to learn slowly, using the "search" button.

I do admit, I was rough on you. However, I have been an RCIA member since 2009 and among it's first to join.

You would be surprised just how often it occurs, that new members come here [ or guests ] and try to tell us how it should be done, fight, banter never give up and never gain a thing. I have seen it many times!

Let us help you out. You are now a fellow RCIA member!

Oh, and welcome to RCIA!!!