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Roof Cleaning Lanoka Harbor NJ 609-971-6553 wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Lanoka Harbor NJ 609-971-6553 wrote:

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??? Mike alot of times I have a very hard time understanding your point. As for me, my problem is I don't have a filtering system when I speak, and others beat around the bush, and some sugar coat it, but you, I don't know man. lol

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 Here we go! BTW I heard Dan is killing everyone up there??? How can that Be? LOL!!!! What I heard... lol!

 Edit: Clyde you are a great personality! And wouldve "fit right in" this weekend!!! It was off the hook this year!!!!

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gutterdog wrote:

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I heard about this thread in Tampa. I know Marcus, and he is a stand up guy. He would never knowingly stab you in the back "in the name of business". Alot of guys are like that. Marcus isnt one.

AC really messed up with that powder chit. Who is perfect? But when you set yourself up as a leader, Especially a supplier!!! (I told my secret recipe for gutter scrubbing to some friends in Tampa. That not gonna come back and kick me in the arse. I been field testing it for a year now!) you set yourself up to be judged as well. YOU HAVE TO BE PERFECT. (IMHO AC should have fixed it not Delux. But that is all behind us now.)

Chris Tucker is my friend and teacher. Chris brought AC here. Chris has never chewed me out for being curious about AC. Taking his class, or anything.

This isnt about AC this is about Marcus I believe. Marcus is an honest guy and you are giving him flak he dont deserve. He was just sharing what he could. Trying to help.

I aint Gary or a moderator, or want to be one. Too much responsability, Another way to be judged! lol!!!! Chit I got enough probs now with you guys!!!! lol!!!

What I'm saying is let this thread die. Or some appologies made and move forward.

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  What I'm saying is let this thread die.

Hi Mike, it had died, you brought it back to life again.

I agree, let it die, the points that any of us wanted to make were made.

I have no doubt that Marcus is a decent guy and an intelligent business man.

My original post was just to compliment him.

I have nothing against him, it's just the way things go on forums and when people are not talking face to face, but just typing thoughts.

I'm not innocent by any means-most of us aren't.

If you want a thread to die, the last thing you do is post on it, that brings it right back up to the top of "Recent Posts"

Just a heads up for you-in case you didn't know that?

Marcus and I have already moved on and have been talking about pump switches.

Actually the Green Wash is going to be carried by quite a few distributors now,  Not just by Delux which is actually powerwash.com now. From my conversations w A.C. at NCE in Tampa this weekend it looks like Russ Johnson at Southside, Paul Kassander at Powerwashstore.com and some otheres all will be carrying it.  I am also working on trying to stock it for some our Houston Roof Cleaners that use it.  This way we can all save on the shipping.

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

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I did not mean to get the AC dislikers all roused up.  I was just sending the man AC's way instead of Delux.  I have been told he no longer uses Delux.  I probably should not have copied the 1st few lines of his web site and only sent the URL.  The man I sent it to is from my home town, my competition. 

AC shaved years off my business growth and I was only going to share that with my competition.  Houston is a big town and a little competition does not scare me.  I have been doing this for 16 years.

I apologize to those AC dislikers who felt I was promoting someone they disliked.  That was not my intention.  I was just sharing info to my competition.  I thought that the AC hate group had died when AC left this board.  Apparently the group that ran him off still has hard feelings and takes it out on anyone that has no qualms with AC.

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Marcus, AC was in quite a strong position here at RCIA. No small group could have ousted him, he was obviously disliked here by the majority.

I know your using the term "Hate Group" is supposed to make that majority look unimpressive.

Hate Groups - like skinheads and KKK are an extreme minority.

For the majority who wanted AC gone to have "died when AC left this board"

most RCIA members would have to have died.

If you remember correctly, he had a lot of people posting who had negative feelings about him and just you and a few others who promoted him. And even you said he had lied to you when the "Powdered Bleach" disaster occured.

If anyone were going to trust anyone to buy that CH again, I would think it would be Delux - they are the ones who ran right off and cleaned up AC's mess, not AC.

It was nice of you to apologize for posting a promo post for him.

No hard feelings here with you.

How is your sence of humor? In "Good Humor" I hope! You really, honestly, look very professional in your photo! I'm silly I know, but all I can think of is the Good Humor Ice Cream Man from when I was a kid!

I have a little picture for you. Now don't be mad at me please! 

Doug R wrote:

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Actually the Green Wash is going to be carried by quite a few distributors now,  Not just by Delux which is actually powerwash.com now. From my conversations w A.C. at NCE in Tampa this weekend it looks like Russ Johnson at Southside, Paul Kassander at Powerwashstore.com and some otheres all will be carrying it.  I am also working on trying to stock it for some our Houston Roof Cleaners that use it.  This way we can all save on the shipping.

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Myself and another RCIA member put green wash through a battery of tests and it is a good enough product.

For my purposes, the main thing I need from an additive, is to slow runoff - thicken the mix.

Ammonyx lo outperformed the green wash in that respect in my tests, dollar for dollar.

Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

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I did not mean to get the AC dislikers all roused up.  I was just sending the man AC's way instead of Delux.  I have been told he no longer uses Delux.  I probably should not have copied the 1st few lines of his web site and only sent the URL.  The man I sent it to is from my home town, my competition. 

AC shaved years off my business growth and I was only going to share that with my competition.  Houston is a big town and a little competition does not scare me.  I have been doing this for 16 years.

I apologize to those AC dislikers who felt I was promoting someone they disliked.  That was not my intention.  I was just sharing info to my competition.  I thought that the AC hate group had died when AC left this board.  Apparently the group that ran him off still has hard feelings and takes it out on anyone that has no qualms with AC.

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Marcus, AC was in quite a strong position here at RCIA. No small group could have ousted him, he was obviously disliked here by the majority.

I know your using the term "Hate Group" is supposed to make that majority look unimpressive.

Hate Groups - like skinheads and KKK are an extreme minority.

For the majority who wanted AC gone to have "died when AC left this board"

most RCIA members would have to have died.

If you remember correctly, he had a lot of people posting who had negative feelings about him and just you and a few others who promoted him. And even you said he had lied to you when the "Powdered Bleach" disaster occured.

If anyone were going to trust anyone to buy that CH again, I would think it would be Delux - they are the ones who ran right off and cleaned up AC's mess, not AC.

It was nice of you to apologize for posting a promo post for him.

No hard feelings here with you.

How is your sence of humor? In "Good Humor" I hope! You really, honestly, look very professional in your photo! I'm silly I know, but all I can think of is the Good Humor Ice Cream Man from when I was a kid!

I have a little picture for you. Now don't be mad at me please! 

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Sunday 31st of July 2011 10:01:12 PM

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 LMAO, Chuck your are absolutely crazy lol

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

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Thanks Aaron

Chuck, silent majority or vocal minority I never saw a vote.  I am quite aware of the email group that existed posting against AC.  I have been told about it by many members who were asked to join it.  What happened, happened and that is the past.

lol...I like ice cream.  That pic is funny.  Unfortunately I have fair skin and have been a victim of skin cancer (melanoma).  That is why I always wear a hat, long sleeves, & sunglasses when I work.  Can you imagine how warm it gets wearing a long sleeve shirt in 100+ degree weather?  Just spray your hat & the air above you with water and it sure feels nice.

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I appreciate your good sence of humor Marcus!

I am sorry to hear you have had melanoma!

I have been in this business & pressure washing since 1978 and I've been here in Florida in business since 1989.

I have had 7 cancers removed and loads of precancerous skin tissue. But, no melanoma yet!

I am way overdue to have 2 more cancers cut off and more precancerous tissue burned and frozen off than ever! Most of mine is on my forehead and on top of my head, but I have some on my back and arms too.

You are wise to wear the long sleeves etc.

Oh and yes, I was part of an email group, who discussed AC and his powdered bleach and $2500.00 certs etc. Rather than to post our every thought in public against him, we did so privately But a small group would never have the clout to remove AC. He was in 2nd position to Chris Tucker! It wasn't just us.

You are also correct "What happened, happened and that is the past."

By the way, I too apologize for attacking you for the AC promo post I didn't care for.

I should have been a gunslinger instead of a roof cleaner-I'm awefully quick on the draw! My fast shootin' goes with not being too bright I guess?

Can I offer you an ice cream sandwich?

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

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The greenwash is more than something that thickens the mix. 

It does several things:

a. It is a catalyst for the SH, so that you do not have to use as much because it turbo charges the SH.

b. It also has a masking scent.

Doug & I both use it because it works for our applications.  As you remember, Doug is the man who had the problem with AC's CH mix.

I am not promoting this product but just telling it like it is.  Ask Doug.

Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:

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Doug R wrote:

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Actually the Green Wash is going to be carried by quite a few distributors now,  Not just by Delux which is actually powerwash.com now. From my conversations w A.C. at NCE in Tampa this weekend it looks like Russ Johnson at Southside, Paul Kassander at Powerwashstore.com and some otheres all will be carrying it.  I am also working on trying to stock it for some our Houston Roof Cleaners that use it.  This way we can all save on the shipping.

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Myself and another RCIA member put green wash through a battery of tests and it is a good enough product.

For my purposes, the main thing I need from an additive, is to slow runoff - thicken the mix.

Ammonyx lo outperformed the green wash in that respect in my tests, dollar for dollar.

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 Yes, I asked AC about what all it was meant to do and that's what he told me.

The greenwash is more than something that thickens the mix. 

It does several things: It didn't for us, but we had high hopes!

a. It is a catalyst for the SH, so that you do not have to use as much because it turbo charges the SH. In my tests as well as the other RCIA members, we saw no effect in this manner.

b. It also has a masking scent. Yes, and a good smell at that! But the amount it takes to actually mask SH smell was cost prohibitive to us?

Doug & I both use it because it works for our applications.  I'm sure it does, or you wouldn't be using it, unless AC perhaps gave you a special deal on it or something?? If I could get it cheap enough, it would be in my arsenal! Did you ever use Ammonyx Lo or M for a comparison?

As you remember, Doug is the man who had the problem with AC's CH mix. Yes I know that was Doug. We all really felt for him with that powdered bleach fiasco! I don't think anyone will ever forget that!!!

I am not promoting this product but just telling it like it is. Same here. In fact, I had high hopes for the Green Wash, as well as the Powdered Bleach.