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Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) wrote:

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if you think that is worth it then you should get out of business because the elephant is going to step on you and squash your business.

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 That's right. If I am doing a job 1&1/2 hrs. away and I am asked to do another job right by there for $300 dollars for 2 hrs. of work, you can bet your ass I am going to take the extra money and smile all the way back to the shop. So yes Mike, "Really"I would be a fool to turn down $300. That makes the 3hr drive and all the gas a lot more bearable & profitable. That being said I would not do it for that price if that is the only reason for going that far out. But from what I understand we are not sure that is what happened. 

  So yes if I am far from home and in your neighbor hood I will squash you like a fugly bug!

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Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) wrote:

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she was getting ready to call me right up to the piont when he arrived and gave her that ludicrous number. Oh well i cant sit here and bitch any more i just need to get back out there and sell my ass off.

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  Do you know if he drove there just to bid that job or was he already out there doing another job? If it is the latter then it is an extra $300 in his pocket that he wasn't planning on making that day. $50 or less for chemicals $12 for Service M. and 2 hrs of work sounds good to me.  If I am in a neighborhood I will take that all day long if I can stay right there and do all the jobs.

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doing a 3500 sq ft home on the jersey shore for $300 sounds good to you? really?

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 hopefully better days are to come, and we will be able to charge what ever we want?

Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:

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If the house next door should be a $ 350 job and your doing it the same day for $ 300 I thinks thats fine. If it should be a $ 450 or more then I think your causing problems for yourself and others down the road. If you are doing my house for $ 500 and do my neighbor roughly the same home for $ 300 I'd be pretty pissed. Then everyone in the future if its your company or not will expect $ 300. I did a small condo for $250 about a month ago, I gave the guy that price telling him I wanted to get in there and do pretty much all the homes.The place should have went for $370- $380 { front and back } I told him to keep it to himself...which didnt happen. The neighbor wanted his done for that price I told him the cheapest was $350..he wanted $250 I didnt do it. I was right there.....I would have made about $200. The point is $200 sounds great... till you have to back up your guarantee,buy a new pump or part,truck breaks down,gas,ins, workmans comp...and so on! Then what did you make? The sad thing is there was once a time here in the N/E that roof cleaning was so new we had a chance to set the price, now that is slowly going away because of the fly by nighters and those who " think " they are doing good by making a quick couple of hundred bucks. I think that type of thinking is killing us all, us the non fly by nighters,the fully insured!
For my price { if it's a hundred or two or more } your getting a quality job that will last with a guarantee, your getting a company that will still be around to back up that guarantee. Your getting a company with employees that have had back ground checks and are good citizens who you can feel safe having at your home. " the customer is always right " attitude. Top grade equipment,Ins and so on. Everytime we " lower our price " to much because we are right there the entire industry standard price takes a hit. If I amd doing a house next door to one I am doing right then and there I take $25-$30 off ....the price of gas for coming back and I let them know it.

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 Very well put, if you price similiar homes differnet it will follow you, you are cutting your own throat,

I wish you the best David H but if you are like this your days are numbered, you are worst enemy,  you wont need competion, cause you are your own

David

Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:

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If the house next door should be a $ 350 job and your doing it the same day for $ 300 I thinks thats fine. If it should be a $ 450 or more then I think your causing problems for yourself and others down the road. If you are doing my house for $ 500 and do my neighbor roughly the same home for $ 300 I'd be pretty pissed. Then everyone in the future if its your company or not will expect $ 300. I did a small condo for $250 about a month ago, I gave the guy that price telling him I wanted to get in there and do pretty much all the homes.The place should have went for $370- $380 { front and back } I told him to keep it to himself...which didnt happen. The neighbor wanted his done for that price I told him the cheapest was $350..he wanted $250 I didnt do it. I was right there.....I would have made about $200. The point is $200 sounds great... till you have to back up your guarantee,buy a new pump or part,truck breaks down,gas,ins, workmans comp...and so on! Then what did you make? The sad thing is there was once a time here in the N/E that roof cleaning was so new we had a chance to set the price, now that is slowly going away because of the fly by nighters and those who " think " they are doing good by making a quick couple of hundred bucks. I think that type of thinking is killing us all, us the non fly by nighters,the fully insured!
For my price { if it's a hundred or two or more } your getting a quality job that will last with a guarantee, your getting a company that will still be around to back up that guarantee. Your getting a company with employees that have had back ground checks and are good citizens who you can feel safe having at your home. " the customer is always right " attitude. Top grade equipment,Ins and so on. Everytime we " lower our price " to much because we are right there the entire industry standard price takes a hit. If I amd doing a house next door to one I am doing right then and there I take $25-$30 off ....the price of gas for coming back and I let them know it.

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thanks for taking the time to type what i was thinking  

Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Long Island N.Y 516-763-4108 wrote:

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If the house next door should be a $ 350 job and your doing it the same day for $ 300 I thinks thats fine. If it should be a $ 450 or more then I think your causing problems for yourself and others down the road. If you are doing my house for $ 500 and do my neighbor roughly the same home for $ 300 I'd be pretty pissed. Then everyone in the future if its your company or not will expect $ 300. I did a small condo for $250 about a month ago, I gave the guy that price telling him I wanted to get in there and do pretty much all the homes.The place should have went for $370- $380 { front and back } I told him to keep it to himself...which didnt happen. The neighbor wanted his done for that price I told him the cheapest was $350..he wanted $250 I didnt do it. I was right there.....I would have made about $200. The point is $200 sounds great... till you have to back up your guarantee,buy a new pump or part,truck breaks down,gas,ins, workmans comp...and so on! Then what did you make? The sad thing is there was once a time here in the N/E that roof cleaning was so new we had a chance to set the price, now that is slowly going away because of the fly by nighters and those who " think " they are doing good by making a quick couple of hundred bucks. I think that type of thinking is killing us all, us the non fly by nighters,the fully insured!
For my price { if it's a hundred or two or more } your getting a quality job that will last with a guarantee, your getting a company that will still be around to back up that guarantee. Your getting a company with employees that have had back ground checks and are good citizens who you can feel safe having at your home. " the customer is always right " attitude. Top grade equipment,Ins and so on. Everytime we " lower our price " to much because we are right there the entire industry standard price takes a hit. If I amd doing a house next door to one I am doing right then and there I take $25-$30 off ....the price of gas for coming back and I let them know it.

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  Last Week I won a job 1 1/2 hrs. from home. Roof, Siding, Driveway & Gutters cleaned out for $600. I'm in a new state just starting back up where no one knows me or my company. So rather than sit and make no money I bid it lower than if I was rolling. She said they looked at the bids and saw mine and said this is a no brainer. While there, a window washer working next door gave me the # of one of his customers that needed house and deck cleaned. I did that job and then drove 20 minutes further out to bid on a roof referral someone gave me. I gave her a price and I did it right then. I drove home that day with $1450 in my pocket compared to no money if I would have bid the first job high to make you guys happy. I do what I have to to survive and get my business up and going and if you cry babies don't like it tough!

  The point is if I wouldn't have bid low on that first job I might not have gotten it. Which led to more jobs and more people having my name. Plus she is having the HOA put a little piece about me in their little homeowners paper. Every roof I saw was filthy.

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 Good reply David!!!!! I don't care what anyone thinks either, I will charge what ever I want.

The original post sure sounded like a lot of crying and bitching. I can understand Michael being upset. He thought he had a job and then someone came swooping in and pulled it out from under him. I am being the devils advocate with this post. None of us know the guys situation. If he was already out there just 5 miles away from this job or if he went all the way out there just for that job.

     There is no way I am traveling 1 1/2 hours one way just for $300. I'll sit at home and watch TV first. I just can't imagine with gas prices that he did either. Who knows. If he did I think he is nuts. But it is his choice. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC wrote:

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Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) wrote:

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if you think that is worth it then you should get out of business because the elephant is going to step on you and squash your business.

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 That's right. If I am doing a job 1&1/2 hrs. away and I am asked to do another job right by there for $300 dollars for 2 hrs. of work, you can bet your ass I am going to take the extra money and smile all the way back to the shop. So yes Mike, "Really"I would be a fool to turn down $300. That makes the 3hr drive and all the gas a lot more bearable & profitable. That being said I would not do it for that price if that is the only reason for going that far out. But from what I understand we are not sure that is what happened. 

  So yes if I am far from home and in your neighbor hood I will squash you like a fugly bug!

 Yes i do know for a fact that he went there at around 10-1030 in the morning i was there at 9. 

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 Dave,

            If i were in the area and i got a call i would not go below 150 of what i would want to do the job. There are other ways to get a job and do it the same time without getting beat on price.

 Im not bitching, more or less im complaining or venting. I just dont know why people want to kill there own market and its not like the leads are free you have to pay for them.

-- Edited by Diamond Roof Cleaning New Jersey (1-800-Roof-Clean) on Tuesday 31st of May 2011 06:44:02 AM

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Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC wrote:

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Ok guys I am doing a roof 2 miles from my house tomorrow that will take 2 hours to do for $650.   Happy?

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 lol, yes ... not as happy as you though