Robert welcome aboard. If your going to " just throw money out there " why don't you first throw the money and become a premium member. That way your learning and helping.
Quite honestly I have not seen a bulitein board in my more then 20 yrs on the net that charged $$$ and lasted very long. Im not quite sure the direction this websites is taking. When I first logged on the $100 was for certification after doing time on the board and out in the field working. I must admit that it has been a big part of my business development since first logging on. But I also believe that the best way to learn anything is by getting your hands dirty.(IE Better to invest in doing then talking about it) I have been pressure washing for about 16yrs, and only started to dable in roofs about a year and a half ago after being asked 100 times to pressure wash peoples roofs. Which I new from a stint working in the constructiuon trade would not be a good application on asphalt shingles.
But back to the $100 issue. The net was originally utilized for the transfer of information mostly free, but not a viable model of course. But with the advent of WWW advertising it obviously sprouted into one of the biggest phenominoms of our lifetime, which allows anyone with a minimal amout of traffic to supplemnt the the cost or completely pay for them. So with that being said where exactly is this $100 per member going? Is this a board of free flowing information between members or truly a structured institute of classes designed specifically to train roof cleaners? I believe you have some very knowledgeable guests on this board who would be greatly missed if they were forced out for not paying. In fact without these guests the appeal of the board may be totally lost.
Some of what you said isn't exactly as how it is.
The $100.00 was never for certification and no where will you find a post or sticky stating that the fee for premium membership is for a certification fee. Somehow too many people had this misconception. Everything today costs $$$. There are fees with this board/forum such as the fee for the forum itself, talk shoe and instant presenter. In order for RCIA to move forward and to accomplish things in the future, it will take some money. When compared to other places, other forums/orgs, this is a deal. How does RCIA grow if there is no way to pay for the forum and all the other costs? The 100 bucks is simply the cost of doing business.
Thats mostly true Brett,..but there are a few guys on here who were grandfathered in and were made certified or master or whatever.
But I haven't joined the premium side and my certification was removed,..I will only be grandfathered in if I join the premium side. So in a sense, the $100.00 dollars would sem to be necessary to become certified,...which is easily fair.
Clyde, Jeff has said repeatedly that he would be willing to pay for a small sample pack and the shipping. Im sure if you walked into delux, they would give you a small sample, but if they offered it to everyone, their shipping costs would be astronomical.
Chuck, You can get the same info on pretty much ANY other industry board for free. The only difference is that you USED to not have to deal with all the BS to find the good info. Not so anymore. This board is the same as the others now except that you have to pay here.
Clyde, Jeff has said repeatedly that he would be willing to pay for a small sample pack and the shipping. Im sure if you walked into delux, they would give you a small sample, but if they offered it to everyone, their shipping costs would be astronomical.
Chuck, You can get the same info on pretty much ANY other industry board for free. The only difference is that you USED to not have to deal with all the BS to find the good info. Not so anymore. This board is the same as the others now except that you have to pay here.
Dear AC JR, { Scotty Jr } you are on my "ignore" list.
In fact, you are the only one on it so far!
I do not recall ever having read any input from you that was of value? Just controversy posts, insults against Chris T and others, who are of value here and AC / Delux butt kissing posts, which is what you are most well known for. { BS as you call it } so, this is my last reply to you.
It's good for you, that AC's / Delux's Koolaid is slow release/low dose!
SEEYA!
Chuck
-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Monday 4th of April 2011 05:52:48 PM
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Chuck I'm not sure where you're coming from. There was nothing insulting about my post. Nobody can deny that this board has been muddled up by BS and bad info the last year or so. Regardless of who's fault it was, its there. It also can't be denied that all the info is on about another dozen or so boards, which is what the question was about.
Chuck I'm not sure where you're coming from. There was nothing insulting about my post. Nobody can deny that this board has been muddled up by BS and bad info the last year or so. Regardless of who's fault it was, its there. It also can't be denied that all the info is on about another dozen or so boards, which is what the question was about.
So I'm not sure why you're attacking me.
One last reply for you.
Chuck I'm not sure where you're coming from. Really? I think most everyone else does.
There was nothing insulting about my post. I was talking about many of your posts, not this one in particular.
Nobody can deny that this board has been muddled up by BS and bad info the last year or so. Regardless of who's fault it was, its there. There's some truth to that and you and I were major contributors, weren't we? Yet you feel the need to point it out, like you are on the outside looking in?
It also can't be denied that all the info is on about another dozen or so boards, which is what the question was about. There are a dozen other Roof Cleaning "boards" where this much information is available? I haven't seen them? Why don't you pm me a dozen of them, to prove your point?
So I'm not sure why you're attacking me. It's not an attack, you spoke to me first in this post and I replied.My replies to you are never going to be sweet. I don't like you, in fact, it became clear, after reading replies to your posts and being on some of the Talkshoe programs, that a lot of people don't like you. Haven't you noticed??
You belittle Chris T and RCIA itself and quite a few of the people you post replies to. What do you expect? You post, not like you are lacking in intelligence, but like you are unaware of anyone's feelings-like you yourself have none? I don't know, I can't explain it to you, if you don't know yourself I guess. I do think it best that we don't reply to each others posts, I'm sure you don't like me much either. No reason you should!
We are like, on opposite ends of every discussion{ Discussion that are largely muddled up bs, as you said }.
So, to do my part in stopping, what you call "muddled up by BS" at RCIA, I thought I would just let you know, I would ignore your posts directed at me, etc, from today on?Are you also taking some action to stop what you are complaining about muddling up RCIA ?
Chuck
-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Monday 4th of April 2011 07:08:11 PM
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Come on guys,..don't let me out of this "controversy" on who causes the most trouble, controversy or muddies the water the most. I HAVE to be right there in the running,..I mean go back and look at some of my posts,..Maybe it's time for a poll..Ha,Ha...
Yes Chuck I have been a HUGE contributor, and yes I'm making an effort to stop, that's why I'm not posting anythhing controversial and why I was confused by your response....I'm making a concerted effort to get along. Brett and I had a good conversation and mended fences and now have a better understanding of where the others coming from. I'm not a bad guy chuck, we just don't see eye to eye, and for good reason.
Yes Chuck I have been a HUGE contributor, and yes I'm making an effort to stop, that's why I'm not posting anythhing controversial and why I was confused by your response....I'm making a concerted effort to get along. Brett and I had a good conversation and mended fences and now have a better understanding of where the others coming from. I'm not a bad guy chuck, we just don't see eye to eye, and for good reason.
OK Scott, Looks like Jeff is the real culprit!
Let's just not jump on each others posts anymore.
We will both just back it down a few notches.
OK?
Chuck
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Scott problem is you do not cand coat for people and lot people on the board likes there BS with cherry flavor. That is one thing like about your personality you hold back on the BS I say keep it up.
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Wish I could participate in your fighting guys, but I'm busy making money. 8:30 at night and Im just getting in. Well really I think I worked to about 6:00. My customers were so happy with their clean roof that they had me stay over for dinner>..
So when I grow up and pay the $100 do I still have to watch people bicker and get off topic. Or will people reply to the post with mature comments filled with insight. LOL
Im really kidding I could care less about who has time to play tough guy.
So has anyone tried the products and have anything to say about them?
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What do u mean by run into him. Is he like a brick wall LOL-- Ive seen his signs out..
Yeah I do some landscape projects with my brother too and people are a bit gun shy do to the cold. Looks like well have a lot of bids out this week. Feast or Famin.
-- Edited by robgee05 on Tuesday 5th of April 2011 04:28:49 PM
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