Well that is great news!!

I didn't realize Chris had a committee still for the cert.

So were do we pay $150?? Did Chris set up a new FEIN and bank account or do we just pay it to Chris' paypal?

Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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Patience is a virtue.

I spoke to the certification committee Chairman Saturday and he indicated it will be out by April 1st, as promised.

I have paid my $150.00, which is a no brainer, and I'll complete it once the materials are posted.

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 I have great patience, I am still waiting on my welcome package......

 

Washed-up wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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Patience is a virtue.

I spoke to the certification committee Chairman Saturday and he indicated it will be out by April 1st, as promised.

I have paid my $150.00, which is a no brainer, and I'll complete it once the materials are posted.

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 I have great patience, I am still waiting on my welcome package......

 

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 Lol.... me too! I imagine that went down the river with the old leadership

Washed-up wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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Patience is a virtue.

I spoke to the certification committee Chairman Saturday and he indicated it will be out by April 1st, as promised.

I have paid my $150.00, which is a no brainer, and I'll complete it once the materials are posted.

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 I have great patience, I am still waiting on my welcome package......

 

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 I got mine about a month ago. Slow in coming but got it.

 

Bill, I'm not trying to be a dick, but you've been acting like a child for the past month. If you are so pissed and all you can do is post negative and sarcastic comments, why even bother coming here? I know you spent a lot of your own hard earned money for the RCIA, and I appreciate everything you have done, but man, you are better than this kind of stuff.

You guys can fire away for me being less experienced all you want, if you wish.

Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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AC Lockyer wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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Patience is a virtue.

I spoke to the certification committee Chairman Saturday and he indicated it will be out by April 1st, as promised.

I have paid my $150.00, which is a no brainer, and I'll complete it once the materials are posted.

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Bruce,

Could you please list the members of the cert committee and who is the chair. I heard that some of the pieces have changed???

Bill,

Lay back dude. Give them the space they didn't give us.

AC

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 AC;

The certification is the same as when you all started except Bill is no longer a member. Chris madden is the Chair still. They have everything ready to go and should be out before the week end.

Given there wasn't even committees submitted until February 1st of this year and formed a few weeks after that, they have made well of the time to put this together.

 

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 If the committee is still the same than I imagine Charlie would be included in that list??  Now I heard a talk shoe last week were Chris said that we will not recognize any power washing of roofs and that power washers are enemies of the RCIA, yet Charlie on the certification committee and an RCIA member power washes roofs.

When I was there we had discussed not banning power washers for lack of solid research on either side, but from the talk-shoe that seems to be out of the question.

Is Chris even aware of this?

If so how does Charlie feel about building a cert he is not allowed to have, is he aware of the talk shoe?

 

Phil: your right, thanks, except that it has only been 8 days. I do have serious questions though and the one above is one of them.  Your experience is not as much a concern to me as the collective experience of the cert commitee.  It will be a little hard to push a cert on a veteran like Chuck that comes from newbies and a power washer.  It may not seem fair but that is how people react and it will hurt the number of certs that can be given to the most experienced.

 

-- Edited by Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 on Sunday 27th of March 2011 05:23:16 PM

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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AC Lockyer wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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Patience is a virtue.

I spoke to the certification committee Chairman Saturday and he indicated it will be out by April 1st, as promised.

I have paid my $150.00, which is a no brainer, and I'll complete it once the materials are posted.

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Bruce,

Could you please list the members of the cert committee and who is the chair. I heard that some of the pieces have changed???

Bill,

Lay back dude. Give them the space they didn't give us.

AC

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 AC;

The certification is the same as when you all started except Bill is no longer a member. Chris madden is the Chair still. They have everything ready to go and should be out before the week end.

Given there wasn't even committees submitted until February 1st of this year and formed a few weeks after that, they have made well of the time to put this together.

 

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 If the committee is still the same than I imagine Charlie would be included in that list??  Now I heard a talk shoe last week were Chris said that we will not recognize any power washing of roofs and that power washers are enemies of the RCIA, yet Charlie on the certification committee and an RCIA member power washes roofs.

When I was there we had discussed not banning power washers for lack of solid research on either side, but from the talk-shoe that seems to be out of the question.

Is Chris even aware of this?

If so how does Charlie feel about building a cert he is not allowed to have, is he aware of the talk shoe?

 

Phil: your right, thanks, except that it has only been 8 days. I do have serious questions though and the one above is one of them.  Your experience is not as much a concern to me as the collective experience of the cert commitee.  It will be a little hard to push a cert on a veteran like Chuck that comes from newbies and a power washer.  It may not seem fair but that is how people react and it will hurt the number of certs that can be given to the most experienced.

 

-- Edited by Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 on Sunday 27th of March 2011 05:23:16 PM

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 So many things to talk about. I can't keep up Bill. I dont think the majority can either. We need someone like you man!

 You are on top of everything.

 You give reports. Most of it I dont understand. lol! Know it's the truth.

 Guys when I talk to Bill on the phone.

 I love the RCIA. Read my posts!

 Bill loves the RCIA even more I think.

 Well I cant do what he does for the RCIA. I aint as good at the upper uh... Representing us, to the PWI, or PWNA, UAMCC, TGS, all that chit. Like Chris been doing too.

 I can speak up for Bill. I kinda understand?

 Now finally RCIA getting some respect!

 

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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AC Lockyer wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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Patience is a virtue.

I spoke to the certification committee Chairman Saturday and he indicated it will be out by April 1st, as promised.

I have paid my $150.00, which is a no brainer, and I'll complete it once the materials are posted.

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Bruce,

Could you please list the members of the cert committee and who is the chair. I heard that some of the pieces have changed???

Bill,

Lay back dude. Give them the space they didn't give us.

AC

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 AC;

The certification is the same as when you all started except Bill is no longer a member. Chris madden is the Chair still. They have everything ready to go and should be out before the week end.

Given there wasn't even committees submitted until February 1st of this year and formed a few weeks after that, they have made well of the time to put this together.

 

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 If the committee is still the same than I imagine Charlie would be included in that list??  Now I heard a talk shoe last week were Chris said that we will not recognize any power washing of roofs and that power washers are enemies of the RCIA, yet Charlie on the certification committee and an RCIA member power washes roofs.

When I was there we had discussed not banning power washers for lack of solid research on either side, but from the talk-shoe that seems to be out of the question.

Is Chris even aware of this?

If so how does Charlie feel about building a cert he is not allowed to have, is he aware of the talk shoe?

 

Phil: your right, thanks, except that it has only been 8 days. I do have serious questions though and the one above is one of them.  Your experience is not as much a concern to me as the collective experience of the cert commitee.  It will be a little hard to push a cert on a veteran like Chuck that comes from newbies and a power washer.  It may not seem fair but that is how people react and it will hurt the number of certs that can be given to the most experienced.

 

-- Edited by Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 on Sunday 27th of March 2011 05:23:16 PM

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 Anyone that ruins roofs is the enemy of the RCIA. I have seen roofs ruined by applying straight 12.5 percent, and seeing clowns spray concrete tile roofs with acid to 'whiten them up'.  There is no 'debate' for any experienced shingle roof cleaner as to the damage pressure washing causes. Non pressure chemical cleaning will clean a tile roof safer for the tiles because not as much or no walking on the roof tiles is needed. Thus, it is a superior method, not to mention it actually kills the algae vs scattering it everywhere.

RCIA is not about pressure washers, it is about roof cleaners. I have trained thousands of pressure washers to clean roofs w/o pressure. Few, if any, have ever returned to pressure washing roofs.

As far as Charles being on the Cert Committee, that's fine. Some people on the Cert Committee eat Fish and Liver too ( I Don't).

The questions on the RCIA Certification Test, the webinars, the post requirements, all are well and good. But FINAL RCIA Certification rests with me, and our Masters!

Bill, if I can speak frankly my friend, I think you may be making too much of this "Industry" thing. I know you made good friends with the PWNA Guys we went to dinner with at the Tampa Roundtable. I liked them too.

But, after I made them a sub forum, and extended an olive branch to them, they have copied us, and knocked us off! Now, Our "Own" AC's Roof Cleaning Class at Delux is being advertised with a PWNA and NOT an RCIA Roof Cleaning Certification from an organization headed by 3 pressure washers who pressure wash trucks, and clean kitchen exhausts!

Don't even get me going Bill about  PWNA. It was started by Robert Hinderliter (Delux) who still has ties to it! Daryl Mrza of the PWNA is in bed with Deluxe as well. RCIA don't charge DELUX a freaking DIME to come over here and hawk their shit to our members, yet they turn around through PWNA and stab RCIA in the freaking back.

Bill, in case you haven't LOOKED, RCIA IS the freaking "Industry". The NCE Tampa Roundtable would have been a Ghost Town, w/o us there.  The RCIA Forum is one of, if not THE Busiest "Industry" Forum there is. Are we an "org" ? Fuk NO, and don't want to be an "Org" either. Far too many "Org's" in this "Industry" are merely fronts for those with hidden agendas. RCIA Members spoke loud and clear, they did not want a vendor (AC) running things. And Bill, your allegiance to the PWNA has not won you any friends here, especially after they showed their true colors.

I spoke to Michael Hinderliter about  AC's class, and Delux using PWNA Certification vs ours. What a Kick in the Face to me personally, since I practically lived on the old Delco (Delux) Board for years teaching roof cleaning for free, and sent all my students to them for supplies!

While I will not instigate anything out of respect to both my friend AC and my old friends at Delux, I do not believe RCIA Members are going to  "jump for joy" at PWNA duplicating  our roof cleaning certification concept, and our own AC teaching a class supporting a competing certification to theirs.

 

 

 

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

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Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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AC Lockyer wrote:

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Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

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Patience is a virtue.

I spoke to the certification committee Chairman Saturday and he indicated it will be out by April 1st, as promised.

I have paid my $150.00, which is a no brainer, and I'll complete it once the materials are posted.

---

 

 

Bruce,

Could you please list the members of the cert committee and who is the chair. I heard that some of the pieces have changed???

Bill,

Lay back dude. Give them the space they didn't give us.

AC

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 AC;

The certification is the same as when you all started except Bill is no longer a member. Chris madden is the Chair still. They have everything ready to go and should be out before the week end.

Given there wasn't even committees submitted until February 1st of this year and formed a few weeks after that, they have made well of the time to put this together.

 

---

 If the committee is still the same than I imagine Charlie would be included in that list??  Now I heard a talk shoe last week were Chris said that we will not recognize any power washing of roofs and that power washers are enemies of the RCIA, yet Charlie on the certification committee and an RCIA member power washes roofs.

When I was there we had discussed not banning power washers for lack of solid research on either side, but from the talk-shoe that seems to be out of the question.

Is Chris even aware of this?

If so how does Charlie feel about building a cert he is not allowed to have, is he aware of the talk shoe?

 

Phil: your right, thanks, except that it has only been 8 days. I do have serious questions though and the one above is one of them.  Your experience is not as much a concern to me as the collective experience of the cert commitee.  It will be a little hard to push a cert on a veteran like Chuck that comes from newbies and a power washer.  It may not seem fair but that is how people react and it will hurt the number of certs that can be given to the most experienced.

 

-- Edited by Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 on Sunday 27th of March 2011 05:23:16 PM

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 Anyone that ruins roofs is the enemy of the RCIA. I have seen roofs ruined by applying straight 12.5 percent, and seeing clowns spray concrete tile roofs with acid to 'whiten them up'.  There is no 'debate' for any experienced shingle roof cleaner as to the damage pressure washing causes. Non pressure chemical cleaning will clean a tile roof safer for the tiles because not as much or no walking on the roof tiles is needed. Thus, it is a superior method, not to mention it actually kills the algae vs scattering it everywhere.

RCIA is not about pressure washers, it is about roof cleaners. I have trained thousands of pressure washers to clean roofs w/o pressure. Few, if any, have ever returned to pressure washing roofs.

As far as Charles being on the Cert Committee, that's fine. Some people on the Cert Committee eat Fish and Liver too ( I Don't).

The questions on the RCIA Certification Test, the webinars, the post requirements, all are well and good. But FINAL RCIA Certification rests with me, and our Masters!

Bill, if I can speak frankly my friend, I think you may be making too much of this "Industry" thing. I know you made good friends with the PWNA Guys we went to dinner with at the Tampa Roundtable. I liked them too.

But, after I made them a sub forum, and extended an olive branch to them, they have copied us, and knocked us off! Now, Our "Own" AC's Roof Cleaning Class at Delux is being advertised with a PWNA and NOT an RCIA Roof Cleaning Certification from an organization headed by 3 pressure washers who pressure wash trucks, and clean kitchen exhausts!

Don't even get me going Bill about  PWNA. It was started by Robert Hinderliter (Delux) who still has ties to it! Daryl Mrza of the PWNA is in bed with Deluxe as well. RCIA don't charge DELUX a freaking DIME to come over here and hawk their shit to our members, yet they turn around through PWNA and stab RCIA in the freaking back.

Bill, in case you haven't LOOKED, RCIA IS the freaking "Industry". The NCE Tampa Roundtable would have been a Ghost Town, w/o us there.  The RCIA Forum is one of, if not THE Busiest "Industry" Forum there is. Are we an "org" ? Fuk NO, and don't want to be an "Org" either. Far too many "Org's" in this "Industry" are merely fronts for those with hidden agendas. RCIA Members spoke loud and clear, they did not want a vendor (AC) running things. And Bill, your allegiance to the PWNA has not won you any friends here, especially after they showed their true colors.

I spoke to Michael Hinderliter about  AC's class, and Delux using PWNA Certification vs ours. What a Kick in the Face to me personally, since I practically lived on the old Delco (Delux) Board for years teaching roof cleaning for free, and sent all my students to them for supplies!

While I will not instigate anything out of respect to both my friend AC and my old friends at Delux, I do not believe RCIA Members are going to  "jump for joy" at PWNA duplicating  our roof cleaning certification concept, and our own AC teaching a class supporting a competing certification to theirs.

 

 

 

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 chit. uhhh this doesnt make sense?