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Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC wrote:

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Why don't we all just agree that we should all go "F" our selves and stop all this. I am tired of getting 30 email notifications every hour and having to come back to every thread to see if there is anything good. I need to desperately try to get my web site to the first page instead of....well I can't even find it on Google...lol. I know you guys are going to tell me to just shut off the email notifications but I can't help it. I might miss something really good. We are just beating a dead horse now. What needed to be said has been said. Or what is going to be said has already been said. I sold my motorcycle so I could buy my trailer and reels..etc.. etc.etc. So for me good buddies lets stop the fighting so I can get my Google rank up and make some money and buy another motorcycle and a jet ski that does 90 mph. After that I will stoke the flames back up so we all can go at it again.


DEAL?

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It's not that simple, unfortunately. When the owner of RCIA Forums ran the whole show, it was all happy camping time. Now, a group [not all bad by any means] is running things, since AC Lockyear came and { in my opinion } started using RCIA for making him $$$ { and I'm not insulting him, just trying to explain to Mr Hoover what some of us see it like } it is a fightclub. This used to be an info hotline and now it's being used as a cash cow. { Again MY OPINION } So it probably will always be what you see now, as long as AC and a few that are on the "MILLION DOLLAR BAND WAGON HE DRIVES" { My opinion only } are running much of the show. This is a forum and these are perhaps strictly my opinions only and I am not trying to represent others, nor state that what I think is fact. So, I'm hoping that opinions, if stated in a more refined manner, than my prior comedic method, will be considered more acceptable? I'm hoping that it won't get to the point where we are getting the old USSR censorship on out posts? For all I know, AC may be the "Man In White, scripture quoting, 154 IQ guy that he says he is?
NOW! As to your getting SEO from RCIA. You can't do that here, in the premium part. I PM'd you my suggestions on that just now. It has to be done on the open side.
Your point was

So for me good buddies lets stop the fighting so I can get my Google rank"
Live long and prosper !

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

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Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC wrote:

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Why don't we all just agree that we should all go "F" our selves and stop all this. I am tired of getting 30 email notifications every hour and having to come back to every thread to see if there is anything good. I need to desperately try to get my web site to the first page instead of....well I can't even find it on Google...lol. I know you guys are going to tell me to just shut off the email notifications but I can't help it. I might miss something really good. We are just beating a dead horse now. What needed to be said has been said. Or what is going to be said has already been said. I sold my motorcycle so I could buy my trailer and reels..etc.. etc.etc. So for me good buddies lets stop the fighting so I can get my Google rank up and make some money and buy another motorcycle and a jet ski that does 90 mph. After that I will stoke the flames back up so we all can go at it again.


DEAL?

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It's not that simple, unfortunately. When the owner of RCIA Forums ran the whole show, it was all happy camping time. Now, a group [not all bad by any means] is running things, since AC Lockyear came and { in my opinion } started using RCIA for making him $$$ { and I'm not insulting him, just trying to explain to Mr Hoover what some of us see it like } it is a fightclub. This used to be an info hotline and now it's being used as a cash cow. { Again MY OPINION } So it probably will always be what you see now, as long as AC and a few that are on the "MILLION DOLLAR BAND WAGON HE DRIVES" { My opinion only } are running much of the show. This is a forum and these are perhaps strictly my opinions only and I am not trying to represent others, nor state that what I think is fact. So, I'm hoping that opinions, if stated in a more refined manner, than my prior comedic method, will be considered more acceptable? I'm hoping that it won't get to the point where we are getting the old USSR censorship on out posts? For all I know, AC may be the "Man In White, scripture quoting, 154 IQ guy that he says he is?
NOW! As to your getting SEO from RCIA. You can't do that here, in the premium part. I PM'd you my suggestions on that just now. It has to be done on the open side.
Your point was "So for me good buddies lets stop the fighting so I can get my Google rank"
Live long and prosper !

 

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Friday 11th of March 2011 07:57:12 AM

 

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Yes, for SEO, posting on the Closed (premium) side of the forum will do you no good.
I am going to take a look at you from an SEO Perspective Raleigh NC Roof Cleaning, and see how we can best help you.

 

 

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While your at it Chris, would you mind running Chuck Bergman Softwash Roof Cleaning as well and letting me know what you think?
I would sure appreciate that!
Chuck

Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC wrote:

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Thanks, Chris. There is a company that has been hounding me for $140 a month they can keep me on the first page of Google. I might have to go that route. It is going to be 70's this week end....Wooohoo.

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Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC wrote:

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Oh Crap! So what you are saying is I need to pay someone do design my whole website?


-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC on Friday 11th of March 2011 01:09:19 PM

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No, quite the opposite. Chris is suggesting you simply change the wording  to
"Elephant Roof and Exterior Cleaning of Raleigh North Carolina provides safe, non pressure shingle roof cleaning services for the Raleigh, NC area and surrounding counties. The black streaks on your shingle roof are actually algae which will continue to grow until it is killed. Elephant Roof and Exterior Cleaning of Raleigh North Carolina can safely kill the algae, erasing the black streaks and roof stains, and return the beauty of your  roof! Call Elephant Roof and Exterior Cleaning of Raleigh North Carolina for a free estimate at 666 666 6666 today!
Our safe, non pressure roof cleaning service area includes Raleigh, NC and surrounding areas."
That's all! He did the rest of what was needed for you already!

1. Who owns this 50 point standard the RCIA members or RCIA, INC.?

 A. The Roof Cleaning Institute of America was founded by Chris Tucker. In July 2010 Chris Tucker and Bill Booze asked me to come in and help with the org. In August of 2010 we held officer elections within a BOD meeting in order to start formalizing the org. In September 2010 the BOD decided to take the next business step and start a corporation for the new org. There was discussion about where to found the corp. docs (what state) and Florida was chosen because of its proximity to Chris Tucker the founder. I was the only person on the BOD who resided in Florida and was close to Chris T so the BOD tasked me with starting the corp. All of the BOD voted unamanously (sp) to task me with starting the corp. (see BOD meeting minutes)

The RCIA Inc is a corporation in the State of Florida. Its officers are Pres, Chris Tucker, VP, AC Lockyer, Sec, Bill Booz, Trea, Gary Wyer. The RCIA Inc has a federal ID number and a bank account registered to that corp. doc. That corporation makes the payment for the account that hosts the BB with a company named Sparklit. The RCIA legally is The Roof Cleaning Institute of America Inc. A Florida Corporation. If it were not it would be an asset of Chris Tucker which he has openly explained has a 30k judgment against him and has had thousands of dollars ripped from his business accounts from that judgment. If Chris owned the RCIA right now the 10k we have in the bank would be gone. Corporations are created to protect the assets of the corporation, business or org. Also they are created to place a veil between the officers and the business in the event of unforeseen liability.

In order to do certification correctly we had to create a corp. so those working on the cert could have protection from unforeseen liability that could arise from the cert process. The RCIA is an organization within a corporation. So the corporation owns the materials this organization creates. All of the items created by the RCIA are for improving the roof cleaning industry, first for the contractor.

Chris Tucker voted and was in complete agreement with all of the decisions listed above.

2. So what’s going to keep you from selling the certification to Delux.

A. Nothing right now. I can say that selling our program is not part of our business plan. I was asked by Delux after they asked Chris T and Bill B the same, to develop this class for Delux. They were planning on using another orgs cert or develop their own. I influenced them to take a harder look at the RCIA. It has always been the BOD’s plan to take whatever cert program we create and lease it out to other training organizations. In fact this was first looked at as a way to limit liability for the org. Initially we looked at the RCIA would create the 50 Point Standard, Another org could develop the certification program and test and a school could administer the training and test. All along the RCIA receiving royalties for the 50 Point Standard so we had income for operating expenses.

3. Also your class is teaching this soft wash certification, it’s all about your skid and your chemicals from my understanding.

A. It is no mystery that Delux has a business model for their Delux University that they do these classes to train someone on their equipment in the HOPE that they will continue to use it and purchase chemicals from them. They have had 2 other schools operating on this concept for over a decade. The class is not all about my skid. There are 5 days of instruction. There are modules on Business Plans, Marketing, Systems, Safety, The 50 Point Standard, etc. There are 2 modules of the 15 that are specific to my equipment.

4. What do you have here a 3 yr contract with Delux.?

A. Yes

5. So tell me AC, are you going to lease this certification to Delux.  

A. I am not going to do anything. The RCIA has a BOD, we follow Parliamentary Procedure. We have discussions about the org and the directions we want to take. BOD members make motions, motions are seconded, discussion is held, a question is called for to end discussions and a vote is held. Everything we have done over the last 6 months has been discussed and voted on. Delux was the first trade school to show an interest in our program. They made an offer of an honorarium to pay back to the RCIA for the use of the test only. That is all still up in the air.

6. Who voted on this? Or was it voted on?  

 A. Yes see above.

7. Why do I see you selling us out?

A. I am not sure. What evidence do you have of me selling the RCIA out?

8. It seems like there is a lot of sneaking around and a lot of unanswered questions.

A. Hard to sneak around when every board meeting is recorded and Bill Booz posts the minutes and agendas. We will try harder to answer your questions David.

9. Why has it taken so long to get this certification written?

A. Well we canceled the old certification over liability concerns in early October I believe. November came and we created a new certification committee. Gary Wyer even posted a thread about the creation of that committee on the BB. The members of that committee got busy with personal business and things were dropped. One of the drops was the 50 Point Standard. Remember we had posted a promise on the BB that we were going to have it done by Christmas Eve as a present to the RCIA. A week before the Christmas Eve deadline nothing was moving on completing this task. A very few BOD members had to scramble to take the various points created in the moderators sub forum along with the ones posted on the preemie sub forum and hustle to make the promised deadline. That original doc failed to get enough votes from the membership. After a few weeks an updated version that was debated on the BB for some time was reviewed and drafted by Kim at Presidential Power Washing. That doc did pass the membership vote and was ratified by the BOD on January 17^th 2011. Approximately one month later the BOD took some volunteers from a list Bruce Sullivan put together for the BOD were asked to join the BOD on a conference call and the Certification Committee was newly created with Chris Madden as the Chair. We are in our fifth month working towards the goal of certification. How long do you think it should take?

10. Is it because you needed this time to write this 300 page doc for your class?

A. No, actually the back-up drive that had all of my content from 18 years in business, operations manuals, pictures, forms, spreadsheets crashed in November and I just got all the info back from the recovery company 2 weeks ago. I have been working 16 hour days; way into the wee hours of the morning trying to get the class done that Delux contracted me to create. I am way behind but very positive. It is coming out great.

11. Is this what this last trip to Miss. about?

A. The Mississippi trip was for Professional Business Guide customers. I have a relationship with a large nationwide property management company. They have a leadership conference there every year that I go to. I invited all of my clients to come there for training on how to do this type of higher level marketing to management companies. We are hoping we will get a blessing of work for their companies from that trip. Had nothing to do with the RCIA.

S. Again seems like a lot of sneaking around, some answers would be nice AC. Straight answers, no sugar coated bullshit.

A. The BOD isn’t a government entity. There are no sunshine laws that tell us we need to tell you everything we discuss, do or implement. Sometimes things are best unsaid, things change directions are adjusted, when it all settles out and we have a definitive answer for you we try to get it out ASAP as clear as we can. Are we perfect? NO! I spend over 20 hour a week on this org, so does Gary and Bill. I believe that our hours spent added to our passion for serving this org should gain us some grace for out imperfections. After all we are going exactly where we planned to be.

Some of the members say, “It’s all been said and its all out there, roof cleaning isn’t rocket science.” This is true. How much can we ramble on about mixes, pumps, hoses, etc? It has all been said. I’d like to start discussions on, Group Health Insurance, Payroll Servicing Companies, Insurance and Workers Comp Discounts for Certified Members, Disability Insurance or Pool for Injured or Out of Work Members, and the list goes on.

Where is your business going to be in 10 years? Can you afford to send your kids to college? What is your plan for retirement? How long it is before the government has its hand in your kitty?

David, I am going to stand at the gate of this industry and protect it from attacks in any form! Will you stand with me?

AC