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Mar 9, 2011

What and heck is going on here?

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aaron61 wrote:

Quite the little soap opera (As the RCIA TURNS)

+1 Aaron.

And WHY is some of this CRAP above getting copied to the guest side for the world to see and start a whole new discussion? I'm about to follow Scott/Confidents lead and drop all reference to RCIA at this rate. Good grief. I'd delete the damn thread myself but unlike some, I know when to recuse myself.

Mar 9, 2011

Roof Cleaning Northern Virginia (571) 250 9650 wrote:

aaron61 wrote:

Quite the little soap opera (As the RCIA TURNS)

+1 Aaron.
And WHY is some of this CRAP above getting copied to the guest side for the world to see and start a whole new discussion? I'm about to follow Scott/Confidents lead and drop all reference to RCIA at this rate. Good grief. I'd delete the damn thread myself but unlike some, I know when to recuse myself.

Sorry, but it's hard not to reply to these things?
Chuck

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"I spoke to one of my clients today. I had predominantly placed the RCIA logo and 50 Point Standard in amongst several of his advertising pieces. He called me today and asked me to remove them. He said he would never want his customers to ever come to the RCIA and see what this has turned into."

The above comment and then copied to the open side?

Enough said.

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Mar 9, 2011

Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

It was said once that one of the reasons we banned Lori was becaused of all of the drama that she caused on this board. Well now she is gone but the drama has not.....

PWNA dues are $350 a year. As I said before, $100 is not enough to grow this organization.

"WE BANNED"
Does that mean, no more comments, unless I agree with everything?
There you go putting words in my mouth that I did not say.

Please explain.
It is the verbage and drama in this entire post. I thought we got rid of all the drama...lol

is this a threat, that if I don't shut up and take what comes, I will be banned? Is this threat for everyone in the thread, or just me? Or was it aimed at someone else in the thread altogether?
You must think that everything is about you because no where in my post did I say Chuck. The drama behind this thread is too much. I make a comment about it and you are ready to jump down my throat.

I see no relationship between my and the other thread comments here and a vendor / RCIA problem?
Once again I never mentioned your name in my post, as it was not directed to you.

Nice white suit ya got there! Look just like an AC clone! You don't look like the smiley type!
That is my Mr. clean suit and what I wear on all jobs. At my age I must admit, I am not the smiley type anymore.

Maybe I got the wrong idea from your post???
Slightly, duh!

If you once said $100.00 is not enough, then it must be a fact!

Catch ya later my brother! I have been here since march 2009, when did you come along?
Chuck if you would take the time to research info before you typed you would find that I have been a member longer than you. I have been a member since Oct 5, 2008.

Thanks for adding to the drama. I reply to people with the same demeanor as they start talking to me.
Take a chill pill Chuck. You are a good member and I have no problems with you other than the fact that you think everything written is directed towards you. The drama of this entire post is ridiculous.

Chuck
Have a good evening!

Chuck if you would take the time to research info before you typed you would find that I have been a member longer than you. I have been around since Oct 5, 2008.

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 10:40:13 PM

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 10:41:11 PM

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Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

It was said once that one of the reasons we banned Lori was becaused of all of the drama that she caused on this board. Well now she is gone but the drama has not.....

PWNA dues are $350 a year. As I said before, $100 is not enough to grow this organization.

"WE BANNED"
Does that mean, no more comments, unless I agree with everything?
There you go putting words in my mouth that I did not say.

Please explain.
It is the verbage and drama in this entire post. I thought we got rid of all the drama...lol

is this a threat, that if I don't shut up and take what comes, I will be banned? Is this threat for everyone in the thread, or just me? Or was it aimed at someone else in the thread altogether?
You must think that everything is about you because no where in my post did I say Chuck. The drama behind this thread is too much. I make a comment about it and you are ready to jump down my throat.

I see no relationship between my and the other thread comments here and a vendor / RCIA problem?
Once again I never mentioned your name in my post, as it was not directed to you.

Nice white suit ya got there! Look just like an AC clone! You don't look like the smiley type!
That is my Mr. clean suit and what I wear on all jobs. At my age I must admit, I am not the smiley type anymore.

Maybe I got the wrong idea from your post???
Slightly, duh!

If you once said $100.00 is not enough, then it must be a fact!

Catch ya later my brother! I have been here since march 2009, when did you come along?
Chuck if you would take the time to research info before you typed you would find that I have been a member longer than you. I have been a member since Oct 5, 2008.

Thanks for adding to the drama. I reply to people with the same demeanor as they start talking to me.
Take a chill pill Chuck. You are a good member and I have no problems with you other than the fact that you think everything written is directed towards you. The drama of this entire post is ridiculous.

Chuck
Have a good evening!

Chuck if you would take the time to research info before you typed you would find that I have been a member longer than you. I have been around since Oct 5, 2008.

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 10:40:13 PM

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 10:41:11 PM

Marcus,

Where have you been? Hope all has been going okay.

Mar 10, 2011

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

It was said once that one of the reasons we banned Lori was becaused of all of the drama that she caused on this board. Well now she is gone but the drama has not.....

PWNA dues are $350 a year. As I said before, $100 is not enough to grow this organization.

"WE BANNED"
Does that mean, no more comments, unless I agree with everything?
There you go putting words in my mouth that I did not say. Sorry, but I read "one of the reasons we banned Lori" and that's where I got the "WE BANNED" from. I didn't put words in your mouth, I asked you a question.

Please explain.
It is the verbage and drama in this entire post. I thought we got rid of all the drama...lol Thanks for explaining! If Matthew Calahan gets off my back, telling me how many people he employs and that I need to do the same or I'm not a professional roof cleaner, that would help stop the drama.

Is this a threat, that if I don't shut up and take what comes, I will be banned? Is this threat for everyone in the thread, or just me? Or was it aimed at someone else in the thread altogether?
You must think that everything is about you because no where in my post did I say Chuck. The drama behind this thread is too much. I make a comment about it and you are ready to jump down my throat. That's why I asked the question. To see if you were directing it at me. Much of this thread was about me or Matthew, so I asked.

I see no relationship between my and the other thread comments here and a vendor / RCIA problem?
Once again I never mentioned your name in my post, as it was not directed to you. Then my question is answered and it's not directed at me. Thanks!

Nice white suit ya got there! Look just like an AC clone! You don't look like the smiley type!
That is my Mr. clean suit and what I wear on all jobs. At my age I must admit, I am not the smiley type anymore. My personality, is joking a lot, that's the way I've always been. You look very professional! I used to have myself and my son wear nothing but white painters pants, white business logo tee shirts and white boots. Now I got lazy and wear jeans etc. I'm 62 and my body doesn't feel like smilin' much, but it's who I am-it won't go away [ YET ]

Maybe I got the wrong idea from your post???
Slightly, duh! I gladly stand corrected!

If you once said $100.00 is not enough, then it must be a fact!

Catch ya later my brother! I have been here since march 2009, when did you come along?
Chuck if you would take the time to research info before you typed you would find that I have been a member longer than you. I have been a member since Oct 5, 2008.
Sorry about that, yes I should have!

Thanks for adding to the drama. I reply to people with the same demeanor as they start talking to me.
Take a chill pill Chuck. You are a good member and I have no problems with you other than the fact that you think everything written is directed towards you. The drama of this entire post is ridiculous. That may be a bit of an overstatement? Everything? Yes, Matthew gets my goat, with his dogmatic "DO IT MY WAY OR YOUR NO PRO" crap and I have to, shall we say, make light of it, in a humorous way?
I will [ try to ] control myself better in the future. It's just so hard with Matthew!!!
Chuck
Have a good evening!It's morning now, so you have a good day!
Chuck

Chuck if you would take the time to research info before you typed you would find that I have been a member longer than you. I have been around since Oct 5, 2008.

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 10:40:13 PM

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 10:41:11 PM

-- Edited by Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 on Thursday 10th of March 2011 08:28:28 AM

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Mar 10, 2011

Central Iowa Roof Cleaning 515-971-1430 wrote:

Marcus,

Where have you been? Hope all has been going okay.

I have been fortunate to be very busy thank goodness. From her till May I will get even busier.

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AC Lockyer wrote:

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:
I thought god told us not to judge people. And seriously to judge each other based on some forum posts, is again unfair.
Actually Bill

"G"OD in the word said that you will be judged by the measure you use to judge. We are never told not to judge. We all have to make judgments and judge people everyday. God gave us our sense of judgement to keep us from harm.

It is like people say "the Bible says forgive and forget" actually it doesnt. We are commanded to forgive but never told to forget. We are commanded to not have haterid in our hearts for our brother but never to forget. Experience and history with someone keeps you from repeating history with that person.

In Corinthians it says, "Love keeps no records of wrongs" there is no score card! If you keep one on people then "you will be judged by the measure you use to judge" That score card will be kept on you as well.

There are alot of personalities on this board and as I have watched the board and org spiral down quickly I have tried to understand the personalities on here. The RCIA is a microcosms of society. There are princes here and there are princes in the world. There are people trying to rebuild their lives here and there are people trying to rebuild in the world. There are aholes here and there are aholes in the world. There are liars here and there are liars in the world. There are defenders here and there are defenders in the world. Our little society here at the RCIA is no different than anywhere else.

Success is a mirror. Sometimes when people gaze at success they see themselves and where they are at personally. Sometimes that scares some and inspires others. Many people are as comfortable with failure as they are afraid of success. I think we are dealing with fear in either case.

We are trying to go where no other org in the powerwashing / mobile cleaning industry has ever been able to go before. This causes polarization of the masses. Some dont want change and will fight tooth and nail to keep things the same. Some embrace change and cant move there quickly enough. The actuality is that there are a bunch of people in the middle that could go either way.

What we are seeing here is two minorities shouting as loud as they can trying to move the masses. Most in the middle are trying to figure out what all the blood is one the walls.

I spoke to one of my clients today. I had predominantly placed the RCIA logo and 50 Point Standard in amongst several of his advertising pieces. He called me today and asked me to remove them. He said he would never want his customers to ever come to the RCIA and see what this has turned into.

You see both sides think they are right! One side has been squarely on the offensive, attacking every idea, attacking other members, attacking the BOD. It has been said that when times get tough and the heat is on what oozes out of you is what you are made of. I am not saying that to any one group or person!!! I am saying that to everyone! Each and every one of us need to look at what is oozing out of us right now. Is it peace? Is it love? Is it industry building? Will it put food on our tables and create security for our families? When you are tested and the weight of the world is on you what oozes out?

Attacking someone for their spelling....come on man! Chuck I love ya but that is petty. How does that build up the association. I have a 158 IQ and cant spell worth a ding. We are all God's creation. That is the realization I am coming to in all of this. We need to put on the LOVE glasses and see us all for what we really are. WE ARE FRAGILE, CARNAL, PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. WE ARE ALL STUCK IN THE WORST ECONOMY SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. WE ALL NEED EACHOTHER MORE THAN EVER TO HEP ONEANOTHER GROW OUR BUSINESSES.

Even me guys! I have a wife, her name is Karen, she cooks awesome and that is why I am fat. I have a 17 year old daughter Lauren that is going to ACU in the fall. She is me with boobs! She looks like me, is musical like I use to be, draws and does design like me. I love her very much. I have a 15 year old son AJ, he isnt like me much at all. He is very much like my wife's side of the family. He has red hair and weighs 100 lbs less than me. But he is loving, soft hearted, passionate, sings awesome like his mom. LOVES FISHING! They are counting on you to be rational, temperate, patient, caring, clear eyed, gracious.......

Guys so you know to date I have made $1,443.84 directly from this association. It was from the webinars I taught. Id give it back in a second if everyone would take a pledge to stop fighting over all of this.

The title of this thread is "What the heck is going on here?" Id like to answer that by saying I hope it will be unity, purpose and industry building. I know some of yall think you know what my plans are here........................I am excited for you all to see REALLY what my dreams are for the RCIA!

Peace be with you all tonight,

AC

-- Edited by AC Lockyer on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 07:29:34 PM

AC, do you ever stop!?!? Your little game/trick/childish antic to post this on the open section last night was the final straw for me. I have great respect for the person who deleted it! You have plucked my last nerve. I would venture to say that I am not alone and the list grows day by day. All the problems and controversy that has taken place over the last 6 months has been due to you and your actions.

You seldom offer anything w/o wanting money. True, you throw us a bone from time to time but that is not the way I saw the comradery here when I joined. Always you are making your little secret comments like the one here, "The title of this thread is "What the heck is going on here?" Id like to answer that by saying I hope it will be unity, purpose and industry building. I know some of yall think you know what my plans are here........................I am excited for you all to see REALLY what my dreams are for the RCIA!"

Always making some comment like that. Oh guys... just wait and see. Oh guys, just take my wilderness course, Oh, guys, the powder bleach will be the best thing since Jesus. Enough of the just wait crap AC! You never and I mean never answer a question completely and your narcissism has gone over the edge.

David Hoover made a statement, Did you reply? No, you were too busy on the guest side stirring things up. "AC, I forgive and forget real quick. Of course that could be from all the good drugs and partying I used to do...lol.
A lot of this started with Delux posting the school for RCIA Certificate. That was done all wrong and started a fire storm. Haven't heard an apology from Delux or you for posting the add without an explanation."

If you are the big business expert, business101... don't mix politics and religion. Personally I don't care who or want anyone worships and I don't condemn anyone for what they believe. BUT.... when they hide behind their religion and use it to protect themselves and to have the right answer (which works in all religions) no matter what the situation, I lose all respect and the door is closed!

Thank you for your time. Kool-Aid drinkers, it's time to beat me up!

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Blue Ridge VA 540-949-6277 on Thursday 10th of March 2011 08:50:57 AM

Mar 10, 2011

Roof Cleaning Blue Ridge VA 540-949-6277 wrote:

AC Lockyer wrote:

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:
I thought god told us not to judge people. And seriously to judge each other based on some forum posts, is again unfair.
Actually Bill

"G"OD in the word said that you will be judged by the measure you use to judge. We are never told not to judge. We all have to make judgments and judge people everyday. God gave us our sense of judgement to keep us from harm.

It is like people say "the Bible says forgive and forget" actually it doesnt. We are commanded to forgive but never told to forget. We are commanded to not have haterid in our hearts for our brother but never to forget. Experience and history with someone keeps you from repeating history with that person.

In Corinthians it says, "Love keeps no records of wrongs" there is no score card! If you keep one on people then "you will be judged by the measure you use to judge" That score card will be kept on you as well.

There are alot of personalities on this board and as I have watched the board and org spiral down quickly I have tried to understand the personalities on here. The RCIA is a microcosms of society. There are princes here and there are princes in the world. There are people trying to rebuild their lives here and there are people trying to rebuild in the world. There are aholes here and there are aholes in the world. There are liars here and there are liars in the world. There are defenders here and there are defenders in the world. Our little society here at the RCIA is no different than anywhere else.

Success is a mirror. Sometimes when people gaze at success they see themselves and where they are at personally. Sometimes that scares some and inspires others. Many people are as comfortable with failure as they are afraid of success. I think we are dealing with fear in either case.

We are trying to go where no other org in the powerwashing / mobile cleaning industry has ever been able to go before. This causes polarization of the masses. Some dont want change and will fight tooth and nail to keep things the same. Some embrace change and cant move there quickly enough. The actuality is that there are a bunch of people in the middle that could go either way.

What we are seeing here is two minorities shouting as loud as they can trying to move the masses. Most in the middle are trying to figure out what all the blood is one the walls.

I spoke to one of my clients today. I had predominantly placed the RCIA logo and 50 Point Standard in amongst several of his advertising pieces. He called me today and asked me to remove them. He said he would never want his customers to ever come to the RCIA and see what this has turned into.

You see both sides think they are right! One side has been squarely on the offensive, attacking every idea, attacking other members, attacking the BOD. It has been said that when times get tough and the heat is on what oozes out of you is what you are made of. I am not saying that to any one group or person!!! I am saying that to everyone! Each and every one of us need to look at what is oozing out of us right now. Is it peace? Is it love? Is it industry building? Will it put food on our tables and create security for our families? When you are tested and the weight of the world is on you what oozes out?

Attacking someone for their spelling....come on man! Chuck I love ya but that is petty. How does that build up the association. I have a 158 IQ and cant spell worth a ding. We are all God's creation. That is the realization I am coming to in all of this. We need to put on the LOVE glasses and see us all for what we really are. WE ARE FRAGILE, CARNAL, PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. WE ARE ALL STUCK IN THE WORST ECONOMY SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. WE ALL NEED EACHOTHER MORE THAN EVER TO HEP ONEANOTHER GROW OUR BUSINESSES.

Even me guys! I have a wife, her name is Karen, she cooks awesome and that is why I am fat. I have a 17 year old daughter Lauren that is going to ACU in the fall. She is me with boobs! She looks like me, is musical like I use to be, draws and does design like me. I love her very much. I have a 15 year old son AJ, he isnt like me much at all. He is very much like my wife's side of the family. He has red hair and weighs 100 lbs less than me. But he is loving, soft hearted, passionate, sings awesome like his mom. LOVES FISHING! They are counting on you to be rational, temperate, patient, caring, clear eyed, gracious.......

Guys so you know to date I have made $1,443.84 directly from this association. It was from the webinars I taught. Id give it back in a second if everyone would take a pledge to stop fighting over all of this.

The title of this thread is "What the heck is going on here?" Id like to answer that by saying I hope it will be unity, purpose and industry building. I know some of yall think you know what my plans are here........................I am excited for you all to see REALLY what my dreams are for the RCIA!

Peace be with you all tonight,

AC

-- Edited by AC Lockyer on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 07:29:34 PM

AC, do you ever stop!?!? Your little game/trick/childish antic to post this on the open section last night was the final straw for me. I have great respect for the person who deleted it! You have plucked my last nerve. I would venture to say that I am not alone and the list grows day by day. All the problems and controversy that has taken place over the last 6 months has been due to you and your actions.

You seldom offer anything w/o wanting money. True, you throw us a bone from time to time but that is not the way I saw the comradery here when I joined. Always you are making your little secret comments like the one here, "The title of this thread is "What the heck is going on here?" Id like to answer that by saying I hope it will be unity, purpose and industry building. I know some of yall think you know what my plans are here........................I am excited for you all to see REALLY what my dreams are for the RCIA!"

Always making some comment like that. Oh guys... just wait and see. Oh guys, just take my wilderness course, Oh, guys, the powder bleach will be the best thing since Jesus. Enough of the just wait crap AC! You never and I mean never answer a question completely and your narcissism has gone over the edge.

David Hoover made a statement, Did you reply? No, you were too busy on the guest side stirring things up. "AC, I forgive and forget real quick. Of course that could be from all the good drugs and partying I used to do...lol.
A lot of this started with Delux posting the school for RCIA Certificate. That was done all wrong and started a fire storm. Haven't heard an apology from Delux or you for posting the add without an explanation."

If you are the big business expert, business101... don't mix politics and religion. Personally I don't care who or want anyone worships and I don't condemn anyone for what they believe. BUT.... when they hide behind their religion and use it to protect themselves and to have the right answer (which works in all religions) no matter what the situation, I lose all respect and the door is closed!

Thank you for your time. Kool-Aid drinkers, it's time to beat me up!

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Blue Ridge VA 540-949-6277 on Thursday 10th of March 2011 08:50:57 AM

I haven't seen any replies denying that this is all truth?
I assume Blue Ridge hit the nail on the head?
And the emote.img?ID=8424

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Chuck

Matthew · Guest

Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:
Matthew was one of those peopel until today I would assume
A group of Matthew like people will never improve anything.
Every post I make, he jumps in and says we are all basically hacks, if we don't do business just like him.
After 20+ years at this, I don't take kindly to his crap.
Bill, I have absolutely NOTHING against you.
I am just replying to posts on the forum, with my opinion of what I read.
Respectfully meant post,
Chuck

And staying with the way it's always been, head in the sand atttitude will get you where exactly?

And Chuck I never called you a hack. I don't think you're a hack. Heck, I told Lori way back when that I wanted to train with you.

What I said was that there are so many hacks out there and telling people they can do it all by themselves will create more.

I NEVER said you were one.

As to people like me never improving anything...
The truth is people like me swing really big hammers and they tear down as efficiently as they build up.

Sometimes that is what is needed and sometimes good things get broken in the process.

For that... I do apologize.

-- Edited by Matthew on Thursday 10th of March 2011 11:11:59 AM

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Matthew wrote:

Bergman Roof Cleaning Port Charlotte FL 941-698-1959 wrote:
Matthew was one of those peopel until today I would assume
A group of Matthew like people will never improve anything.
Every post I make, he jumps in and says we are all basically hacks, if we don't do business just like him.
After 20+ years at this, I don't take kindly to his crap.
Bill, I have absolutely NOTHING against you.
I am just replying to posts on the forum, with my opinion of what I read.
Respectfully meant post,
Chuck

And staying with the way it's always been, head in the sand atttitude will get you where exactly?

And Chuck I never called you a hack. I don't think you're a hack. Heck, I told Lori way back when that I wanted to train with you.

What I said was that there are so many hacks out there and telling people they can do it all by themselves willc reate more.

I NEVER said you were one.

As to people like me never improving anything...
The truth is people like me swing really big hammers and they tear down as efficiently as they build up.

Sometimes that is what is needed and sometimes good things get broken in the process.

For that... I do apologize.

-- Edited by Matthew on Thursday 10th of March 2011 11:11:10 AM

It shows charactor and a bigger back bone than "really big hammers" when someone can publically apologize. Some people can do that while others never do and just stir the pot!

deleted member

If you "build up" so well why isn't everything going swimmingly? You are after all a moderator.

Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC · Mar 10, 2011

ART! Don't make me come down there. If you do, wait til warmer weather and I have a jet ski.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC on Thursday 10th of March 2011 11:35:14 AM

deleted member

My friend, you are welcome to come anytime. I haven't forgotten I said I'd call you, I'm just not there yet. Maybe if I got off the forum, I could catch-up.

Roof Cleaning Raleigh NC · Mar 10, 2011

Roof Stain Removers wrote:

Maybe if I got off the forum, I could catch-up.

YOU THINK?

Matthew · Guest

Roof Stain Removers wrote:

If you "build up" so well why isn't everything going swimmingly? You are after all a moderator.

By that logic I guess you have perfect children who always do what you say.
And they have everything the always needed at the moment they needed it?

By that Logic, good men would always have perfect marraiges with perfectly happy wives

deleted member

I never said I had a bigger hammer. That was your claim. I have a big heart. That's my claim.

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Roof Stain Removers wrote:

I never said I had a bigger hammer. That was your claim. I have a big heart. That's my claim.

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Blue Ridge VA 540-949-6277 on Thursday 10th of March 2011 12:29:21 PM

AC Lockyer · none

Roof Cleaning Blue Ridge VA 540-949-6277 wrote:

AC Lockyer wrote:

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 wrote:
I thought god told us not to judge people. And seriously to judge each other based on some forum posts, is again unfair.
Actually Bill

"G"OD in the word said that you will be judged by the measure you use to judge. We are never told not to judge. We all have to make judgments and judge people everyday. God gave us our sense of judgement to keep us from harm.

It is like people say "the Bible says forgive and forget" actually it doesnt. We are commanded to forgive but never told to forget. We are commanded to not have haterid in our hearts for our brother but never to forget. Experience and history with someone keeps you from repeating history with that person.

In Corinthians it says, "Love keeps no records of wrongs" there is no score card! If you keep one on people then "you will be judged by the measure you use to judge" That score card will be kept on you as well.

There are alot of personalities on this board and as I have watched the board and org spiral down quickly I have tried to understand the personalities on here. The RCIA is a microcosms of society. There are princes here and there are princes in the world. There are people trying to rebuild their lives here and there are people trying to rebuild in the world. There are aholes here and there are aholes in the world. There are liars here and there are liars in the world. There are defenders here and there are defenders in the world. Our little society here at the RCIA is no different than anywhere else.

Success is a mirror. Sometimes when people gaze at success they see themselves and where they are at personally. Sometimes that scares some and inspires others. Many people are as comfortable with failure as they are afraid of success. I think we are dealing with fear in either case.

We are trying to go where no other org in the powerwashing / mobile cleaning industry has ever been able to go before. This causes polarization of the masses. Some dont want change and will fight tooth and nail to keep things the same. Some embrace change and cant move there quickly enough. The actuality is that there are a bunch of people in the middle that could go either way.

What we are seeing here is two minorities shouting as loud as they can trying to move the masses. Most in the middle are trying to figure out what all the blood is one the walls.

I spoke to one of my clients today. I had predominantly placed the RCIA logo and 50 Point Standard in amongst several of his advertising pieces. He called me today and asked me to remove them. He said he would never want his customers to ever come to the RCIA and see what this has turned into.

You see both sides think they are right! One side has been squarely on the offensive, attacking every idea, attacking other members, attacking the BOD. It has been said that when times get tough and the heat is on what oozes out of you is what you are made of. I am not saying that to any one group or person!!! I am saying that to everyone! Each and every one of us need to look at what is oozing out of us right now. Is it peace? Is it love? Is it industry building? Will it put food on our tables and create security for our families? When you are tested and the weight of the world is on you what oozes out?

Attacking someone for their spelling....come on man! Chuck I love ya but that is petty. How does that build up the association. I have a 158 IQ and cant spell worth a ding. We are all God's creation. That is the realization I am coming to in all of this. We need to put on the LOVE glasses and see us all for what we really are. WE ARE FRAGILE, CARNAL, PEOPLE WITH FAMILIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. WE ARE ALL STUCK IN THE WORST ECONOMY SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION. WE ALL NEED EACHOTHER MORE THAN EVER TO HEP ONEANOTHER GROW OUR BUSINESSES.

Even me guys! I have a wife, her name is Karen, she cooks awesome and that is why I am fat. I have a 17 year old daughter Lauren that is going to ACU in the fall. She is me with boobs! She looks like me, is musical like I use to be, draws and does design like me. I love her very much. I have a 15 year old son AJ, he isnt like me much at all. He is very much like my wife's side of the family. He has red hair and weighs 100 lbs less than me. But he is loving, soft hearted, passionate, sings awesome like his mom. LOVES FISHING! They are counting on you to be rational, temperate, patient, caring, clear eyed, gracious.......

Guys so you know to date I have made $1,443.84 directly from this association. It was from the webinars I taught. Id give it back in a second if everyone would take a pledge to stop fighting over all of this.

The title of this thread is "What the heck is going on here?" Id like to answer that by saying I hope it will be unity, purpose and industry building. I know some of yall think you know what my plans are here........................I am excited for you all to see REALLY what my dreams are for the RCIA!

Peace be with you all tonight,

AC

-- Edited by AC Lockyer on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 07:29:34 PM

AC, do you ever stop!?!? Your little game/trick/childish antic to post this on the open section last night was the final straw for me. I have great respect for the person who deleted it! You have plucked my last nerve. I would venture to say that I am not alone and the list grows day by day. All the problems and controversy that has taken place over the last 6 months has been due to you and your actions.

You seldom offer anything w/o wanting money. True, you throw us a bone from time to time but that is not the way I saw the comradery here when I joined. Always you are making your little secret comments like the one here, "The title of this thread is "What the heck is going on here?" Id like to answer that by saying I hope it will be unity, purpose and industry building. I know some of yall think you know what my plans are here........................I am excited for you all to see REALLY what my dreams are for the RCIA!"

Always making some comment like that. Oh guys... just wait and see. Oh guys, just take my wilderness course, Oh, guys, the powder bleach will be the best thing since Jesus. Enough of the just wait crap AC! You never and I mean never answer a question completely and your narcissism has gone over the edge.

David Hoover made a statement, Did you reply? No, you were too busy on the guest side stirring things up. "AC, I forgive and forget real quick. Of course that could be from all the good drugs and partying I used to do...lol.
A lot of this started with Delux posting the school for RCIA Certificate. That was done all wrong and started a fire storm. Haven't heard an apology from Delux or you for posting the add without an explanation."

If you are the big business expert, business101... don't mix politics and religion. Personally I don't care who or want anyone worships and I don't condemn anyone for what they believe. BUT.... when they hide behind their religion and use it to protect themselves and to have the right answer (which works in all religions) no matter what the situation, I lose all respect and the door is closed!

Thank you for your time. Kool-Aid drinkers, it's time to beat me up!

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Blue Ridge VA 540-949-6277 on Thursday 10th of March 2011 08:50:57 AM

Bret,

Your wrong. Thats all I can say. Just because you can say that stuff doesnt make it true. Months from now you will be able to judge the tree from its fruit. Im keeping on all this until it is done.

Thanks,

AC

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