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Bruce Weber · Dec 26, 2010

RE: Ideas and discussion on the 50 point program.

Roof Cleaning Bradenton FL 941-822-2454 · Guest

I say amendments to the ratification, or as someone else posted to break it down into segments, then discuss pros'/con's of each segment, then vote each individual segment in until complete.
But for everyone, put your input in.
When the original post was started 2-3 weeks ago for "ideas" , then with everything was done in the boardroom meetings, then BAM 50 point system posted.
I think it might have thrown some for a loop as the details were not clear, I think some had the impression that to become certified would have put that goal off for quite some time, maybe a year or more. Then the expense to comply was another ? mark for some.
Adding in to the fact that how will RCIA bring together the manpower to educate and certify members that are all over the US, which goes back to how long will it take to get certified at this point then?
Things need to change and I think RCIA is on the right track, the problem I see with the vote was not the use of 50 points but the delivery method of the 50 point system.
Kim R

guest

AC is on the right track, smaller bites are more easily digested.

AC Lockyer · none

Well then does everyone feel we could pass the first 10 points if we put that section to vote? Id really like to get this done and start REALLY finding the sticking points.

AC

Bruce Weber · Dec 26, 2010

AC Lockyer wrote:

Well then does everyone feel we could pass the first 10 points if we put that section to vote? Id really like to get this done and start REALLY finding the sticking points.

AC

Yes sir! The first ten are a shoe in.

Washed-up · guest

I think it could get passed if we have the input from everyone. Too many guys/gals voted down the 50 pt. that were not envolved in the making of the 50 pts. But we need more suggestions from the Premium members. We need as many as possible...

We need as many Premium members to log into talkshoe and voice....

Roof Cleaning Little Rock Arkansas · Guest

AC Lockyer wrote:

Well then does everyone feel we could pass the first 10 points if we put that section to vote? Id really like to get this done and start REALLY finding the sticking points.

AC

Yes!

Roof Cleaning Missouri 417-230-8103 · Guest

Roof Cleaning Little Rock Arkansas wrote:

AC Lockyer wrote:

Well then does everyone feel we could pass the first 10 points if we put that section to vote? Id really like to get this done and start REALLY finding the sticking points.

AC

Yes!

Yes Sir,
of the original?

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Missouri 417-230-8103 on Sunday 26th of December 2010 04:24:10 PM

garyw · Dec 26, 2010

Has everyone watched AC's video in his post on "his take on the 50 points". Pretty much says it all. Go watch.
Gary

Reliable Roof Cleaning Jacksonville FL · Guest

AC Lockyer wrote:

Well then does everyone feel we could pass the first 10 points if we put that section to vote? Id really like to get this done and start REALLY finding the sticking points.

AC

I have always felt that the standard was much larger (50 points) than it needed to be. After watching AC's video I think I know how it got there. It was determined that there were 5 areas to be addressed and that each area should have 10 points. So the size was determined before the content was really developed. Therefore, I think things were added that don't need to be there just to get to 10 points per item.

As written, I would not vote yes for Section One with the way it is written. I don't expect RCIA to be as intrusive in my company as to tell me that uniforms must be worn, certain employees must wear badges, my website must be only for certain purposes, I have to run background checks, I must use a consumer mediation service, must present customer with proposals, must present scope of work, etc, etc, etc.

Let's try to keep this simple. The larger and more convoluted the standard becomes, especially in later sections regarding inspections, maintenance and education requirements, the standard will become unattainable.

Respectfully,
Charles

Roof Cleaning Cleveland (216) 323-0552 · Dec 26, 2010

AC, loved your webinar and look forward to your next ones. The 50 point certification, was voted down. Not because of one thing but because of them all together. I'm kinda insulted if you are going to use your position and go item by item. 10 items okay I'll jump threw some hurdles. 50 is crazy. I was hoping to get certified, put it in my advertising and be ready for summer. With the 50 points maybe the following summer. Just way to much. I appreciate all of your hard work and look forward to your next webinar.

Roof Cleaning Missouri 417-230-8103 · Guest

Roof Cleaning Missouri 417-230-8103 wrote:

Roof Cleaning Little Rock Arkansas wrote:

AC Lockyer wrote:

Well then does everyone feel we could pass the first 10 points if we put that section to vote? Id really like to get this done and start REALLY finding the sticking points.

AC

Yes!

Yes Sir, of the orginial

of the original or are you talking the one with the video?

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Missouri 417-230-8103 on Sunday 26th of December 2010 04:24:10 PM

Roof Cleaning Bradenton FL 941-822-2454 · Guest

Clarity!! listen to the Talk Show from tonight!
your questions from the vote may be answered.
Kim R

Washed-up · guest

Good to see you there tonight Kim- you came prepared with questions!

Roof Cleaning Bradenton FL 941-822-2454 · Guest

It was really good to gain clarity on some things, not sure how Randy will feel about sucking face with a dummy for CPR, but he'll get over it, lol
It was a great show and I am ready to vote again
Kim R

Washed-up · guest

Presidential Pressure Washing wrote:

It was really good to gain clarity on some things, not sure how Randy will feel about sucking face with a dummy for CPR, but he'll get over it, lol
It was a great show and I am ready to vote again
Kim R

I sucked face with a dummy once....then I divorced her a year later!

(no comment from Larry please, you know you want to!)

I have not renewed my first aid or cpr in a few years. I had it current til 2 years ago.

By the way, I just celebrated my 15 year anniversary with my wife! lol

SP Cleaning · Dec 26, 2010

Washed-up wrote:

Presidential Pressure Washing wrote:

It was really good to gain clarity on some things, not sure how Randy will feel about sucking face with a dummy for CPR, but he'll get over it, lol
It was a great show and I am ready to vote again
Kim R

I sucked face with a dummy once....then I divorced her a year later!

(no comment from Larry please, you know you want to!)

I have not renewed my first aid or cpr in a few years. I had it current til 2 years ago.

By the way, I just celebrated my 15 year anniversary with my wife! lol

Congrats Dwayn on the 15years!!!

AC Lockyer · none

Glad the show helped yall. Please have other members log onto talkshoe and listen if they missed it.

AC

garyw · Dec 27, 2010

SP Cleaning wrote:

Washed-up wrote:

Presidential Pressure Washing wrote:

It was really good to gain clarity on some things, not sure how Randy will feel about sucking face with a dummy for CPR, but he'll get over it, lol
It was a great show and I am ready to vote again
Kim R

I sucked face with a dummy once....then I divorced her a year later!

(no comment from Larry please, you know you want to!)

I have not renewed my first aid or cpr in a few years. I had it current til 2 years ago.

By the way, I just celebrated my 15 year anniversary with my wife! lol

Congrats Dwayn on the 15years!!!

Congrats on the 15 years. I remember those days, barely! I've been married longer than most of you have been on this planet. I've got 45 coming this year. When I make a committment, I stick to it.
Gary

Confident Roof Cleaning Houston TX · Guest

Ive only been married for a year, but Ive been with my wife for 9 years. We started dating when I was 16.

Congrats Dwayne!

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