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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

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Chowell77 wrote:

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I sat here thinking why that guy would post that about us. I've come up with two possible conclusions:

2. A clean roof makes his job more difficult doing the roof inspection. Hail damage etc is A LOT easier to spot on a roof covered in algae as opposed to a clean roof. I truly think he's pissed because we make him actually put down the binoculars and physically climb the roof.

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1. At some point he crossed a roof cleaner using high pressure and damaging shingles.

I think this is your answer !

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My thoughts exactly Chris. 

Unfortunately there are more jack-lag gypsy power washing guys out there still pressure washing roofs more than there are RCIA guys who clean roofs right using the no pressure chemical only process.

We will cross that line one day and outnumber the hacks pressure washing roofs!

 

Any one entertain the idea of associations with National Roofing Contractors Association as well.
They do not seem to offer much in the advice department to consumers for cleaning?

http://www.nrca.net/consumer/faq.aspx

Excerpt for consumers-
"Q. How do I clean algae and moss from my asphalt shingle roof?

A. Use a mild solution of chlorine bleach and water or mild detergent gently applied with a sponge or hand-held sprayer and rinse thoroughly. Do not use a power washer or high concentrations of bleach, and do not scrub the shingle surface. The Asphalt Roofing Manufacturers Association also offers cleaning recommendations."


There is also the roofers coffee shop, some of the other retired /roofers here may already know of this site, but they have one hell of a following and have been around since 1998.

http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/

If we could get RCIA in the mix of these two might help the SEO? Chris??
What do you all think about getting affiliated with some major orgs like this ?

KIM R

Dang Gary!

You must be CIA! lol

Kim R

I found some talk about roof cleaning....


Originally Posted by Rick Hurst
I've seen people clean the staining off the roofing material with the cleaner made for decks.

Its the same thing I think they use on older fencing to remove the gray before the fencing is stained with color.

It does smell like it has a high concentration of bleach in the material.

Rick
There is actually a product at home depot just for cleaning roofs. It does not contain bleach. I have used it and it was applied just as Jerry said.

Spray & Forget, No Rinse, Roof and Siding Cleaner - Removes Green & Black Algae, Mildew, Moss, and Lichen Stains from External Surfaces

Here is another one: Roof Cleaner from JNK Products

I did an inspection on a roof years back. The homeowner was having a big party so before the party, they pressure cleaned their roof. They cleaned off all of the granules from almost every shingle. Needless to say, another recommendation for replacement! It was a six year old roof!



And this......

Re: What all causes shingle discoloration
I tried something on the house we bought up here, to see what it does and how it works out.

There is a company which 'cleans' shingle roofs with a bleach/water/degreaser solution, which is sprayed out at a low pressure (less than garden hose pressure) through a section of PVC with what looked like (and I am sure it was) a half circle sprinkler head on the end. The spray was minimal, yet you could see it building up on the shingles and running down the roof.

After this set and dried out, they went around and rinsed it off with the same sprayer and plain water from a garden hose (this time at garden hose pressure, they hooked it up to the garden hose).

I was surprised that the solution cleaned as thoroughly as it did (the roof looks great and has NO stains on it). They give a 5 year guaranty too, and will come back at anytime within that 5 years and retreat at no cost (no bull, one of my new neighbors had this done to his house and they were coming back to retreat his (after 3 years, there was limited staining re-appearing) for no charge, so I figured there was not much to lose.

I figure our roof has less than 5 years left on it (it's a 9:12 slope, so it drains very well), so what did I have to lose. The staining was algae - the bleach kills it, the water dilutes the mix, the degreaser is for longevity.

I asked about the solution and they were hesitant to tell me, but I did get out of them that it was not just bleach and water, but the degreaser is what allows them give the 5 year warranty. Don't know what the mix ratio was, couldn't get that out of them.

Talk about roof slope, one neighbor has a 14:12 slope and another has a 20:12 on part of their roof, and another is even steeper on the front section. Talk about a 'water slide' like those kids built.


-- Edited by gutterdog on Sunday 5th of December 2010 11:15:09 AM

Gary,

Whatcha been doing?
But you did get the answer a few already presumed to be the case. and that was... pressure..

So they have been dealing with the PW roof syndrome, time to make nice and let them know we are all on the same page.
What do you think?
Kim R

My opinion on home inspectors is the vast majority don't know what they are doing without all their bells and whistles. Few could go to a home and do a visual inspection without all their fancy gadgets and be out in 1 - 1 1/2 hrs. Which is what an average inspection should take. The have a disclaimer for everything. Few have the years of experience it takes to understand the workings of a home and all are experts! Just ask them! I have shot more holes in inspection reports over the years when customers call complaining about the report. So, as Gary said about that guy...

"He would never change his opinion or else he would suffer from loss of followers"

Kim has a point to eventually win these guys over but when the godfather is speaking with 1300 posts, that's a tough battle. Kim, you gonna join that forum and win them over?

Presidential Pressure Washing wrote:

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Any one entertain the idea of associations with National Roofing Contractors Association as well.
They do not seem to offer much in the advice department to consumers for cleaning?

http://www.nrca.net/consumer/faq.aspx

Excerpt for consumers-
"Q. How do I clean algae and moss from my asphalt shingle roof?

A. Use a mild solution of chlorine bleach and water or mild detergent gently applied with a sponge or hand-held sprayer and rinse thoroughly. Do not use a power washer or high concentrations of bleach, and do not scrub the shingle surface. The Asphalt Roofing Manufacturers Association also offers cleaning recommendations."


There is also the roofers coffee shop, some of the other retired /roofers here may already know of this site, but they have one hell of a following and have been around since 1998.

http://www.rooferscoffeeshop.com/

If we could get RCIA in the mix of these two might help the SEO? Chris??
What do you all think about getting affiliated with some major orgs like this ?

KIM R

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The MORE exposure for RCIA Kim, the better. The RCCA is up in Michigan, I have contacted them before, nice people!

 

A roof I sold this year; the HO asked a roofer first how much to clean? The roofer told her it would be about the same price to clean as to replace. Well I got the job.

I got a call for 40 roofs, apt complex. I got there and they wanted a price for repair and replace. Theres a roofing company round the corner from me. I took their info and ran it to the roofing company hoping I could make friends!

Well I dont know if they got the job or what! I told them that if I ever got a call like this again, or if I get a roof that is beyond cleaning I would recomend them! I even spoke to the owner the following day.

I dont think they will throw me any work. Prob lurking here at the RCIA now, lol!!!

I'll try another roofing company maybe. A washer is taking money from a roofer. Why shouldnt the roofer learn how to wash? Or tell them it cant be washed? I'd rather sell a 5-6,000 job that a 5-600?

What's in it for the roofer? To throw work to a roof cleaner? Heck, I'd like to get 10% of that apt job, 10% of a roof clean aint much, compared to if the replaced it or washed it themselves.

Am I thinking wrong? Have I missed something???

Presidential Pressure Washing wrote:

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Roofers usually do not want to go through the process and do dual duty, while some do, not all. It is just more equipment, time to learn,more employees etc. Many do not see it viable if there isn't what they think is a big profit. But you do have your one man crew that might steal work from you. I would suggest maybe someone in the middle to work with.
But I understand what your saying, more competition would suck, any thoughts how to get our names out there without giving away the farm?
Kim R

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 I dont know?

 The wash industry as a whole is changing right now.Not just no pressure roof washing. The book I'm bringing to NOVA meeting tells alot! Info that wasnt there before, for anyone to just buy the book.