I have learned from the SH manufacture we use that hard water will weaking the sh big time. I did a few test with know hard water and my water at the shop that it naturally soft. And yes there was a big difference. So now we carry 100+ gallons of H2o in a tank marked H2o only.

We all carry a hazmat endorsement just in case. And that case did come just the other day. Oh hey ny the way. Keep any paper work you have on the SH with you at all time. As I ALMOST found that out the hard way. Lucky for me I just happen to have it on me.

Wouldn't it be more professional to come prepared for the Job but then again I have also seen Lowballers fill up from the Fire Hydrants ..they go into a Cove/Circle what ever you wanna call it and hook up some type of hose and pump water into there tank its quick and I'm not sure if its legal...

It's not about Drama folks, it's about education. If you have a tank that can hold more than 119 gallons or 1000lbs with SH in it and no placard or CDL driver with a hazard stamp you are in violation. That's a federal DOT law for PPGIII go look it up or call DOT if you don't believe it. These are the facts from DOT to me themselves, verified through a friend who got fined locally and one who got fined in Florida. Also on a commercial vehicle capable of carrying over 10k lbs you need a DOT#, it is free and can be applied for online.

Your mix is unclassified so would need to be tested for it's packaging group, if it's in PPG3 you are in violation if the tank is capable of holding more than 119 Gallons, or 1000 lbs.

This info came straight from a Federal DOT educator that trains MD state police to find us and fine us.

I have worked very hard to find the facts on this and share it with you all. You can ignore it all you want or do your due diligence and verify it then modify your company to be compliant as we have done.

All shipping containers carrying the SH must have shipping labels. You can get them from your chemical supplier. You can also verify this info with them as they have to be compliant as well.

You guys can try and assume that your story will work until you get pulled over one day, but if you get a cop that knows the law of DOT (many do not) you will find out real quick why I always say assumptions kill a good business.

Remember this is here to help not criticize. Everything I have just said is 100% verifiable fact. It's up to you guys to verify it or ignore it. I presented this info to over 100 people in Charleston as the safety Guru and many there already knew these laws, many did not and are now aware.

You can easily remedy this by using a separate water tank, and a 90 gallon SH tank. My Sh is packaged as 10lbs per gallon.

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Wouldn't it be more professional to come prepared for the Job but then again I have also seen Lowballers fill up from the Fire Hydrants ..they go into a Cove/Circle what ever you wanna call it and hook up some type of hose and pump water into there tank its quick and I'm not sure if its legal...

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Carring water long distances can be counter productive to you fuel mileage, but if you're driving local it could save you a little time. I can't see either way being wrong or right, really depends on your companies practices.

But filling from a hydrant isn't legal without a permit and a meter, check with your local water company, generally they will require a deposit for the meter in addition to the cost of the permit.

 

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Not sure, but I think that is the only way to get one of those hydrant meters.  A friend of mine who cleans new mortor tags off commercial buildings told me this was the case in DC, but I never looked into it.

I agree that neither way is wrong.  It wears your vehicle, but saves time as you said.  We have lots of wells here and the water is always different but we rarley take water anywere.

 

Thanks for the post.
Hi guys, Im a newbie. Nice to join this forum.




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