I actually know someone very popular in the roof & exterior cleaning world who uses a very similar pump and probably does more roofs than anyone here. (Except Dan :) ) Use what you like and let us know how well it works.
Actually, I've been using the same style pump (different brand) for as long as I've been washing rooms and softwashing( 10 years on and off). I love them. I've just been wanting to create a second rig on the truck, since I sold my flat-bed, and found this BRAND NEW pump on ebay for $150, olus shipping. It lists for $750 at grainger. I couldn't pass up that steal
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to find out more about them look up "water pressure booster pumps", Teel, Myers, and Ghoulds are popular makers. Do not leave chemical in them, they must be rinsed out after each use. But this is not problem on our set-up, at we just hit the valve and use the same pump to rinse with when we're done with he roof.
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I actually know someone very popular in the roof & exterior cleaning world who uses a very similar pump and probably does more roofs than anyone here. (Except Dan :) ) Use what you like and let us know how well it works.
That actually made me laugh Scott ... let us know how it holds up
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to find out more about them look up "water pressure booster pumps", Teel, Myers, and Ghoulds are popular makers. Do not leave chemical in them, they must be rinsed out after each use. But this is not problem on our set-up, at we just hit the valve and use the same pump to rinse with when we're done with he roof.
These have been around for years, and work better if you bypass them back to your tank.
This way the pump is not building pressure when the gun/ball valve is off. Of course, if you let the pump build a little pressure, that first shot will be nice I stayed away from them for 2 reasons. One - I don't want to be plugging into my customers electric, 2 - because I have known a few people who had problems with them, like they did not last very long doing tile roofs. Maybe for softwashing or shingle roofs they may be ok. But 1/2 of the roofs we do are tile, and I have my concerns about the effect on the components. Some Centrifugal pumps do not like to be run dry, so they must have flooded suction. This means a bulkhead, and the inevitable leaks. I was gonna buy one and hook it to a little gas powered generator, just for kicks one time long ago.
But the Yamada Air Diapraghm Pumps have worked very well for us. I wonder how big a generator it will take ?
Here's a quick run down on the water pressure booster pumps. For residential washing, the most popular size is 3/4 HP. The Myers I've been using for 6 months now will push about 8-10 GPM through 300 feet of hose, and I get 30-35 feet of distance on a windless day. As far as nozzles go, I use a $3.99 plain trigger style gun. You get a pretty heavy stream coming out, which makes it great for softwashing.
My buddy typically washes 3 jobs per day and he has a Ghoulds which which a little more expensive than a Myers. That pump has been going to 2.5 years, but I have never seen that type of life from a Myers. These type pumps are typically warranted for a year, so if something does go wrong, the replacement is instant at the dealer. I've never seen a head failure, its always been motor issues. The Ghoulds have interior fans which keep the motor cooler. Heat can kill these things.
I've never bypassed my pump, but that would be a good idea. They are not demand pumps and will keep pumping and backing up pressure. Too much back up is bad for the motor.
As far what size generator, i know a 2000 watt won't push them. I carry a 6000 watt on my rig and that works fine when needed. The amp draw is about 14-15, with a heavier pull at start-up. I prefer to plug into the customers electric. Its nice to be able to work and communicate with he crew and not have to yell over a gas engine. I''ve never had a problem with these pumps tripping breakers at customers houses.
They are not self priming, so you'll either need a pressurized tank, or flow the water though the pump to prime. One primed however, they'll hold that prime until the end of the day, even driving from house to house. These pumps can be wired for 220 if desired.
They always need rinsing, but since my set-up is plumbed to use this as a rinse pump too, thats not a problem.
If anyone has more questions about this style pump, feel free to ask Its the only kind of pump I've used in this business, and have always been happy with the results.
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Spray Wash Exterior Cleaning
850.528.3226
visit our website Soft Washing and Pressure Washing
Here's a quick run down on the water pressure booster pumps. For residential washing, the most popular size is 3/4 HP. The Myers I've been using for 6 months now will push about 8-10 GPM through 300 feet of hose, and I get 30-35 feet of distance on a windless day. As far as nozzles go, I use a $3.99 plain trigger style gun. You get a pretty heavy stream coming out, which makes it great for softwashing.
My buddy typically washes 3 jobs per day and he has a Ghoulds which which a little more expensive than a Myers. That pump has been going to 2.5 years, but I have never seen that type of life from a Myers. These type pumps are typically warranted for a year, so if something does go wrong, the replacement is instant at the dealer. I've never seen a head failure, its always been motor issues. The Ghoulds have interior fans which keep the motor cooler. Heat can kill these things.
I've never bypassed my pump, but that would be a good idea. They are not demand pumps and will keep pumping and backing up pressure. Too much back up is bad for the motor.
As far what size generator, i know a 2000 watt won't push them. I carry a 6000 watt on my rig and that works fine when needed. The amp draw is about 14-15, with a heavier pull at start-up. I prefer to plug into the customers electric. Its nice to be able to work and communicate with he crew and not have to yell over a gas engine. I''ve never had a problem with these pumps tripping breakers at customers houses.
They are not self priming, so you'll either need a pressurized tank, or flow the water though the pump to prime. One primed however, they'll hold that prime until the end of the day, even driving from house to house. These pumps can be wired for 220 if desired.
They always need rinsing, but since my set-up is plumbed to use this as a rinse pump too, thats not a problem.
If anyone has more questions about this style pump, feel free to ask Its the only kind of pump I've used in this business, and have always been happy with the results.
The bypass will greatly help the heat in the motor! It is like brake torqueing an automobile, the motor strains against the brake pads! Same when a pump like this not bypassed! Plus, you will get agitation of your mix, maybe NOT so good when using powerful surfactants, LOL The ground man will say "Help, there are bubbles coming out of the tank" ! Seriously, it should be fine. 1/2 or more of our customers are not home when we clean them, so a Generator would be required for me. Just because a pump holds up for a year softwashing don;t mean it will hold up to doing 2 to 3 tile roofs a day. I just HAVE to stick a link in here for a Florida Roof Cleaning Forum, just instinct you know ? SEE how it is done guys, surrounded by a paragraph or more of text ! Last week was 90 percent Tile roofs for one of my trucks, all repeat customers, nothing is coming in on the Internet lately for Tile Roofs My other truck did 8 shingle roofs last week. Back to back tile roofs are murder on a pump, even if rinsed. But if you can simply rinse the bleach smell out of them, and return to Grainger, who cares Even the air diapraghm pumps make out of Kynar we are lucky to get 6 to 8 months out of. The diapraghms go out!
How about this Bad Boy for starters ? This bastard will do 500 PSI ! Chit, at 200 psi it delivers 20 GPM! The chicken coop guys use these, run em for hours every day!
I had an old friend over in Daytona who swore by this pump. Once we found air diapraghm pumps, my pump experimentation kind of stopped. They did, and continue to reliably do the job, and my guys don't want me "messing" with their livelyhood ( I pay on commission)
Totally agree with you about the life of the pump corresponding to the strength of the sauce. I am so happy to be up here in Tallahassee where our exposure to tile is minimal.
Lot of my customers aren't home either, I'm just finding on the modern home, I can usually find a working plug outside the house for the equipment. Secret is to tape, tape, tape and make that seal waterproof, and then tape all the other outlets too. I was doing a roof/house combo the other day , the house had 5 outlets on the upper and lower porch on the front of the house and they even had weather boxes around the outlets, but sure enough I found the one box that wasn't installed correctly and tripped the outlet. all five outlets went to the same GFI.
Totally agree with you about the life of the pump corresponding to the strength of the sauce. I am so happy to be up here in Tallahassee where our exposure to tile is minimal.
Lot of my customers aren't home either, I'm just finding on the modern home, I can usually find a working plug outside the house for the equipment. Secret is to tape, tape, tape and make that seal waterproof, and then tape all the other outlets too. I was doing a roof/house combo the other day , the house had 5 outlets on the upper and lower porch on the front of the house and they even had weather boxes around the outlets, but sure enough I found the one box that wasn't installed correctly and tripped the outlet. all five outlets went to the same GFI.
Wow, usually when we go looking for a hidden plug, we find an un hidden DOG Did you see the link to the bad boy pump I posted ? I wonder how big a generator it will take to run that ? Did you also see the heat sink/cooling fins on the motors ?
The ability to have a one year warranty, and simply return it when it breaks to Grainger I really like If they will replace it then and there! That means almost zero down time. Of course we NEVER say "I just ran Chlorine through it", do we ? No,, the answer is "I dunno what happened, it just quit, all I use is soap and water" LOL
When these die, how do they die, is it a gradual loss of performance, leaks through the seals, motor failure, or what ?
Chris - The ones I've seen die have always had motor failure, never pump issues. Its gradual, but death will occur within two weeks once you see a problem. It will start puling more amps and tripping breakers.
Larger Graingers carry them in stock, and it is automatic replacement when I've needed it, as long as they have it on the rack in the store.
Another friend of mine who softwahsed in the late 90's used the 1 HP pumps and wired them for 240. Had to use a generator to pull from, but those were some bad-boys. Huge volume and pressure.
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Chris - The ones I've seen die have always had motor failure, never pump issues. Its gradual, but death will occur within two weeks once you see a problem. It will start puling more amps and tripping breakers.
Larger Graingers carry them in stock, and it is automatic replacement when I've needed it, as long as they have it on the rack in the store.
Another friend of mine who softwahsed in the late 90's used the 1 HP pumps and wired them for 240. Had to use a generator to pull from, but those were some bad-boys. Huge volume and pressure.