Walk wrote:

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Ron Musgraves wrote:

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Matthew wrote:

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Ron,

Seriously, take it from a man with years of personal experiemce.
Your best move is to just be quiet and let the work you do speak for you.

You continue to post and it is only hurting you.

I'm giving you the same advice I'd want someone to give me.
Just let it go and trust that your work will speak louder than any words can.

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Its very Hurtful, I'll try!!!

 

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Ron your not drinking are you? is there someone there with you to be sure your ok? I know how you feel, I remember when I lost my best best girl friend, It was like my ice cream melting.

 

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I need one, sober right now!!!

You guys I work hard on this, people amaze me.


Loyalty and honest people are very hard to find.

 

Personally, I work from 6am to dark, then I am on this forum like clyde is to church. I love this forum, I love the guys on here, they are of a special breed. I guess birds of a feather applies to us.....
The Few...
The Very Proud....
The Roof Cleaners...

Washed-up wrote:

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Personally, I work from 6am to dark, then I am on this forum like clyde is to church. I love this forum, I love the guys on here, they are of a special breed. I guess birds of a feather applies to us.....
The Few...
The Very Proud....
The Roof Cleaners...

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Walk wrote:

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Roof Cleaning Evansville Indiana 270 860 7894 wrote:

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Washed-up wrote:

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Are we still on this?

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I think we should let this play out completely. Although, I do believe it should be redirected to another section of the Forum.

 

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who do you think has the better character? Lets do this, who ever is caught lying and causing all this trouble here lets kick them off.

or we can quarter them. by that you get 4 horses and tie a rope to the horse and to each of guilty one's limbs and at once you yell Ha. its ugly folks

 

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where is everyone? you guys are like coch roaches with the lights on. lol

No clyde I am still here researching

Roof Cleaning Evansville Indiana 270 860 7894 wrote:

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Washed-up wrote:

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Are we still on this?

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I think we should let this play out completely. Although, I do believe it should be redirected to another section of the Forum.

 

 

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Ok, Seems like I missed all the Fireworks. I have not read THIS whole thread, yet, but I get the gist of it.
Here is what I posted in another thread about this situation.

Ok everyone, enough is enough. I have no horse in this race, but I am tired of all the drama, phone calls, and positioning. I love Lori like a sister, and Ron is my good friend too. Here is what the problem is. Ron has been trying to promote both the RCIA, the Tampa Roundtable, as well as Lori and PWP. Lori told Ron, myself, and Larry she was giving away a Hot Water Skid at Tampa. I personally called her, and she told me she was doing it. She also told Larry she was doing it. Now, it is my understanding she has backed out of the deal she made. This has left Ron holding the bag guys. Lori has benefitted greatly by the considerable publicity generated by all the PR work Ron has done. Now, her refusal to honor the promise she made to Ron has forced him to come 5000.00 out of his own pocket to provide the skid she promised him she would deliver.
Ron begged me NOT to go public with this, choosing to take the high road, and fearing it will kill the Tampa Roundtable. But this Drama will kill it for sure, and the Drama MUST STOP.
Let's be real, a skid is a nice thing, but it is not gonna make, or break the Tampa Roundtable. Ron could easily just put the blame on Lori, and not fork out 5000.00 of his own money. Frankly, that is exactly what I would do! I am sorry,, but a deal is a deal. Unless there is something I do not know about everything surrounding this promise she made to Ron, it is MY opinion she owes Ron Musgraves, me and Larry a public apology. Based on her telling Me she was indeed going to follow though on her promise of a skid, Ron printed a lot of promotional material with PWP on it that is now totally worthless. The RCIA T Shirts Ron was making free of charge for us have been compromised delivery wise by Ron having to pull the PWP LOGO off the RCIA T Shirts. Can you Blame him ? As far as Lori coming to the Tampa Roundtable goes, Ron simply asked her to pay for a vendors booth. Vendors subsidize the Tampa Roundtable, and pay dearly for the right to be in front of several hundred potential customers. Why should Lori, a vendor, walk around the Tampa Roundtable for free, and cut the throats of paying vendors ? Ain't gonnna happen! There has been some talk that Rex, Lori's Father, nixed the deal Lori made to Ron and us all ? Rex is a great Guy, and I personally Like him and Lori.
I LIKED Dave Westermann too, but you all saw what happened to him
He decieved someone on our Forum, used RCIA to acheive his own agenda, at Dan Shay's expense! Now, he is outside looking in.

I am NOT putting Lori and PWP in that catagory, but a deal is a deal, is a deal. If we are not true to our word, what are we true to ? IF Lori overstepped her authority to commit PWP to donating a skid, then she simply needs to say so publicly, apoligize to Larry, Me and Ron, and we can all move on.
And IF she still wants to attend Tampa Roundtable, then as a vendor, she needs to fork over the pre payment check required from all Vendors. Honestly, from what I know about all of this, it would be a big kick in the face to reap all the free publicity she has received in good faith from Ron, then insist she walk around Tampa as a vendor, for free.

It is also my opinion that she has received priceless free advertising and support on both RCIA and Rons Board that has literally put PWP on the map as a vendor. NOT that she has not taken care of us all, because she has.
I can not tell PWP what to do, nor will I try. But IF it were me, I would deliver on my promise. Here is why. Word in our Industry travels like wildfire. Once the very same people who have been promoting PWP on the Internet find out about this, they MAY be relucatant to continue to do so.
After all, you will never catch me suggesting you buy pumps and trailers from Dave Westermann.
How can I trust someone to take care of potential customers when they break their word to the very hands that are feeding them ?

Ron, I know you begged me NOT to go public with this, for fear it will kill the Tampa Roundtable, but guess what ?
I can not sit back and watch you take a completely undeserved ass whipping any longer on my Forum, because you are a gentleman.
Let's get this crap out in the open and settled, before it DOES hurt Tampa.

And Lori, I want an explanation of WHY you told me, Ron, and Larry you were giving away a skid, and why you have suddenly changed your mind please ?
IF there is a good reason you broke your word, here is the opportunity to share it.

Washed-up wrote:

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Thank god for copy and paste Chris.....

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I moved this thread to a closed section of the forum, where this issue can be discussed and hashed out. We can delete or edit posts later, if need be.
I am all for "sweeping trash under the rug", except for the insects it often creates.
My phone has rung off the hook about this issue, not to mention all the emails and private messages. There are questions that need to be addressed.

 

Washed-up wrote:

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Just spoke to Walk...we agree. Trying to get him to come....told him we could share a room, as long he stays sober

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I hope as many RCIA Guys come as possible!