garyw wrote:

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Where is this video located?? PM me if you want to.
Gary

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 Here is the video, so everyone can see what he says. 

This video is from what appears to be a training session, that quite frankly seem more like a sales pitch, for the stuff he sells.

These are newcomers to roof cleaning he is "teaching", and he is not teaching them correctly.

In fact, several times he uses nearly impossible chemical mixing scenarios, to scare the chit out of these potential roof cleaners.

He twists a warning not to add to bleach on a bottle of Dawn around (that was meant for houswives, in an indoors situation) in an attempt to keep these newcomers from using a cheaper alternative to his overpriced Green Wash.

LOL, roof cleaners and pressure washers have been using Dawn in their mixes for years, and it has served us well. 

He also asks "what happens when you add an acid to bleach" ? He replies "you get mustard gas, and implies you will fall off a roof if you breathe this gas". Well, I got news for him, the formation of mustard gas only happens below PH 7

SH is at a PH of nearly 12, and when it is mixed for roof cleaning use, it is still well over PH 10.

LOL, to drop the PH of even a  50 gallon tank of mixed roof cleaning chemical enough to form Gas, it would take many many gallons of a very strong acid, and certainly not a weak acid like Boric Acid.

Boric acid is such a mild acid, it is used for both vaginal suppositories, as well as an eye and ear wash! 

He also goes on to associate Borax with Boric Acid, and they are different chemicals entirely.

Borax is NOT an Acid, it is a buffer, that does it's buffering at PH 9.5

Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 wrote:

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Hey Chris,..as far as I'm concerned,..any effective roof cleaning mix is basically a "homemade" or "bathtub" mix.

Side note: I seen where Ac is selling a unit that is making use of CH. It looks more complicated than I'm willing to get into. I will be interested in seeing how effective it is and if it can work in place of SH,.... I have to think the filters are getting filled fairly quickly,..but that is just an uneducated opinion on my part. If it becomes an effective system we will know about it,...if it is "quirky" then we most likely won't see it become mainstream.

Jeff

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 Hard Water will always be a problem for CH Jeff, no matter how many times you simply filter it. There are some water softening devices that use filtration and reverse osmosis.

CH will never clean as well as SH will anyway, you know that.

Here is a good page all about water softening methods, as well as a Map of the USA, that shows areas of what Type of water you have.

If you do not have hard water in your area, CH should not be any problem for you to use, except the hassle of filtering it.

IF you do live in a hard water area, and insist on using CH, there is a company that makes CH Briquettes that have a special chemical added to them, that eliminates the CH Scale Formation !

I don't know If they offer CH powder with this special scale inhibitor chemical added to it, but you could buy, then smash up, a lot of the CH briquettes, for way less then some 13,000 skid, LOL

Their technology is patent protected, but I know what the chemical is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think about it Jeff, mix up your CH and water, dump a little of this special chemical in the tank,  and go clean !

Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 wrote:

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Yea I agree Chris, Ch cannot be mixed strong enough to equal the strength of SH. SH is way more versatile, we can mix it a desired strength with simple ratios,..or we can use it full strength of we want to, (Composite Decks)

My reasoning these days for CH would be as an alternative rather than a replacement. I like the idea of removing the scale somehow, but there is always SOOO much of it Ha,Ha,... Plus, roof cleaning and house washing uses so much of the raw product we will always have alot of extra insoluble product,..whether filtered or pre-filtered.

I would like to hear from the guys using these systems that are filtering the CH, and if they're rinsing roofs or not,...I would think they would almost have to be.

Jeff

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 I went to the beach yesterday Jeff, but you can't, because you live in PA.

It is Hard Water that is the enemy of the CH. If you live in an area that does not have Hard Water, CH does not leave Scale. It is still a PITA to use though, and does not clean as well as the SH.

Only because you mentioned it Jeff, I just took a look at the Softwash Systems Powdered Bleach Pack. I could not find any pictures of it that were detailed, but it appears to be some sort of portable water softening device, that is an option on the Softwash Systems Skids.

Have you seen it Jeff ?

Check this contraption out Jeff, it may be a scam.

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Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 wrote:

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I don't know Chris,..I thought city water would be considered soft,..maybe not??
Or maybe a softener makes it softer? But the point is,..I've tried it with city water and the results were still leaving white haze that needed to be rinsed more thoroughly than SH.

I seen AC's "CH machine" Here is his partial response explaining to me what it is:

"What SoftWash Systems has done is we have as an additional PACK for our systems a three stage filtration / dissolve system that has separate valves, pump and filters that break down the CH much finer and gets better absorption into the water. It seems when the CH is broken down more it doesn't stick as much. Of course moving the garbage cans, moving the BBQ grills, rinsing the plants and windows helps as well. A two man crew usually doesn't have any issues with residue."

Jeff

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 Here is a Map that shows water hardness or softness

I have to question the softwash systems powdered bleach pack Jeff, for this reason. The scale the CH leaves behind is caused not by how much or how well the CH dissolves in water. The problem occurs when it comes OUT of the water!