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Pristine Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Premium Member Roof Cleaning Institute of America

I have never seen any thing like this..............

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Dan you have some balls to call these guys hacks. i have seen your pricing and i am sick over how low you bid some jobs (even though i beat you out on most) you are one of the guys that are killing south jersey pricing there are others but your in the same group.

Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Jul 17, 2012

Mike, low balling is a serious allegation. Dan, is this true? Are you low balling South Jersey?

Roof Cleaning Tallahassee · Guest

Keeping with the thread title ... I have not seen the "no bleach" signs but have had a huge spike in homeowners ask if we use bleach. I give them verbal information and then attach the ARMA bulletin in PDF format with my estimate that states that we are using the only recommended method to clean asphalt shingles. The strange part is that the customers that ask if we use bleach will eventually get back to me two weeks later or more to schedule a cleaning but customers who don't ask will get back with me the same day or two days later. The only thing I can come up with is they were given bad info from a company that uses scare tactics and the homeowner takes some time to do their own research and realize we clean shingles properly and not with a pressure washer or surface cleaner.

Apex Roof Cleaning · Guest

I spoke with a HO (elderly woman) who wanted her roof cleaned, she told me her neighbor ruined the roof because he poured bleach on it. I said mam our solution is recommended by the shingle manufactures. After the job was done, she comes outside and says. It smells like bleach! Then she looked at her roof and handed me the money.

waxman18324 · Premium Member Roof Cleaning Institute Of America

Dan,

Did I read this right you're traveling from Atco to North Jersey? I don't have anyone putting out signs of this type in my area. We've expanded into Northwest NJ and The Lehigh Valley and those are about 25 miles from the shop.

Hank

-- Edited by waxman18324 on Tuesday 17th of July 2012 08:24:28 AM

Pristine Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Premium Member Roof Cleaning Institute of America

lol...your silly im hardley working hear any more mike. mostly pa. & north jersey. But you win some & you losse some. I may get 7 for one but on others i may only get 4.. But mike seriously make sure there not lieing to you 95% of the time i give a price over the phone so you have no way of knowing for sure what price i gave....

keep your chin up my brotha biggrin

jbugg424 · Guest

People will do anything to get business these days! With the internet, it can be a curse for some and a blessing for others! You have to educate your potential customers with information as to why you use what you use! You have to be able to defend your process, don't worry about the other guy. You'll find that regardless, you'll get the job if the homeowner feels confident of your services. wink

James

H2Overhaul

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Dan there was a job in voorhees that i gave a price of 575 then you come in at 375. Thats a big difference. i still got the job though. All im saying is keepem high and make money.

Roof Cleaning Tallahassee · Guest

jbugg424 wrote:
People will do anything to get business these days! With the internet, it can be a curse for some and a blessing for others! You have to educate your potential customers with information as to why you use what you use! You have to be able to defend your process, don't worry about the other guy. You'll find that regardless, you'll get the job if the homeowner feels confident of your services.

James
H2Overhaul

+1 James!

SealBrite · Guest

Same thing.. People hear the word "BLEACH" and get very scared. The Tech bulletin is they way to go. Educate the home owner

Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Jul 19, 2012

Its easy to get customers to choose the right method. Chlorination or power wash? There's no in between. If it seems your not getting through and the conversation is about to end, remind the customer that Clorox Clean-up is one of the finest disinfectant cleaners used in kitchens accross America. Bleach is used in laundry rooms in the finest hotels and hospitals. Bleach is used in the swimming pools that all the children swim in. And finally, if chlorine is so terrible, they may want to dig up the curb stop and cap the main valve to prevent the townships chlorinated water from getting into their homes water supply. Chlorine is a proven non-carcinogenic chemical. Is the other guys chemical non-carcinogenic? Do they have an msds to prove it? Are they even using a product that has any effect on the organism that are eating the roof? Or are they simply relying on pressure to blast the shingles clean?

If this doesnt win them over you can either give up or give them Chuck's phone number. Let him beat them over the head for a while. His arguments are Indisputable.

RCIA Founder

jbugg424 wrote:
People will do anything to get business these days! With the internet, it can be a curse for some and a blessing for others! You have to educate your potential customers with information as to why you use what you use! You have to be able to defend your process, don't worry about the other guy. You'll find that regardless, you'll get the job if the homeowner feels confident of your services.

James
H2Overhaul

Another reason for Certification!

Doctors and Lawyers say they are Board Certified, to get business away from their competitors all the time.

All it means is that they took, and were able to pass a Board Certification exam.

My Doctor is board certified, and his office is always busy.

Right across the hall, in the same office building, is the exact same kind of Doctor, who is not board certified.

LOL, you probably don't even need an appointment to see him, his office is seldom crowded.

Eric SCHNAIBLE · Jul 19, 2012

Good stuff Ed.

SealBrite · Guest

Good points, how can they even sell powerwashing to the homeowner? It baffles me. My sign was stolen from the entrance to a neighbor hood that we did a couple houses in by one of these no bleach guys. That was a very interesting phone call.

Guest

DDan from sealbrite what part of new jersey are you in.

jbugg424 · Guest

Pricing:

People who are desperate for work will sometimes jeopardize themselves just to get that one job over their competitor. What new or inexperienced business owners fail to realize is a market value has been set by individuals who have been doing that trade longer than them. Their idea is to undercut their price to get the job, and eventually take the competitions business! This is a bad idea! This is not being competitive! That's outright price gauging! This not only hurts your competition, but it will eventually hurt the bidder who won the job! You'll never get that customer to pay the original price again! What used to be a good profit margin has now been cut dramatically! Get to know your competition by introducing yourselves to each other! Discuss margins, not exact prices, no one should do that. But if I know the area that everyone else is bidding at, I'm going to come in somewhere around there. This keeps our prices where they should be. The point here is to work with one another in the industry! There's plenty of work for everyone! We have to work with one together and not be divided. biggrin

James Young

H2Overhaul

Roof Cleaning Tallahassee · Guest

I think I'll send this picture to him so he can throw in global warming as the #2 cause of global warming (#1 being the hot air coming out of Washington). haha..... biggrin

-- Edited by Roof Cleaning Tallahassee on Thursday 19th of July 2012 08:07:36 PM

Roof Cleaning Tallahassee · Guest

Talk about misleading information ... I googled up "roof cleaning contractors" to see where I was ranking and stumbled upon this jokers site.

http://clean4life.net/how-to-report-plant-damage-by-roof-cleaning.html

Pristine Roof Cleaning New Jersey · Premium Member Roof Cleaning Institute of America

Roof Cleaning Tallahassee wrote:
Talk about misleading information ... I googled up "roof cleaning contractors" to see where I was ranking and stumbled upon this jokers site.
http://clean4life.net/how-to-report-plant-damage-by-roof-cleaning.html

Ray i looked up the site and this is the one that the others are useing to sell there product. But there is a huge problem!!!! when you and everybody else (especialy chris) looks up this site, click on campian articals!!! Time and time agian he is bashing chris by name! I AM 90% SURE THAT THIS IS ILEGAL AND CHRIS CAN SUE HIM FOR (i cant remember the term but i think it lieabless) i keep pictureing robert deniro saying it. Check it out and tell me if im right...

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