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Of course it's available,..go get some pool shock at Wal-Mart and mix some up. I actually may give it a shot again. Roof cleaning is so easy these days that I may see if this is more feasible than before,..simply because I have a much better understanding of the overall process than I did years ago when I was using CH.

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Anyone who has never tried this stuff should give it a shot,..it may work into your own plan,..it is NOT,..and I repeat NOT going to replace SH in effectiveness or ease of use. The benefit of being a powder is the only plus with this stuff.

If you do try it,..be VERY prepared for the issues,..use it during cloud cover or morning hours,..the Sun will complicate the chalking issue even more.
Also,..plan on straining it,..that will at least get rid of the undissolved product, and won't be getting in your pump.

If I try it I will be posting my experience with the overall process,..and others can decide if it's for them or not. Maybe some good will come of this whole "mess" after all.


Jeff

-- Edited by Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 on Saturday 16th of April 2011 08:17:03 AM

Hey Pat,..just always nice to have something to fall back on. When I used it in the past, I had good luck with keeping the hazing non-existant,..I never had to do the whole acid thing,..just rinsed ALOT.

If for some reason I can't get or use SH in the future,..I may be be glad to have experience with an alternative.

I basically said there isn't an advantage,..other than it's powder,..but the other advantage is what I mentioned above.

Jeff

-- Edited by Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 on Saturday 16th of April 2011 04:33:07 PM

Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 wrote:

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Hey Pat,..just always nice to have something to fall back on. When I used it in the past, I had good luck with keeping the hazing non-existant,..I never had to do the whole acid thing,..just rinsed ALOT.

If for some reason I can't get or use SH in the future,..I may be be glad to have experience with an alternative.

I basically said there isn't an advantage,..other than it's powder,..but the other advantage is what I mentioned above.

Jeff

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 The calcium hypochlorite scale is well known. Here is a US Patent that deals with it, and commercial NON SCALE versions of Calcium Hypo are to be had!

It would appear all we need to do is see if this patented product can be delivered in a fine powder vs briquette form ? 

If the scale problem can be solved Jeff, there are several boosters that will light up the cal hypo.

 

 

I agree with you Chris. I am new to all this, and trying to get all my ducks in a row before just jumping out there and start washing roofs. I am going down to Delux in May, and planning on buying their Softwash system. Talking with mark about the powder, they have not aborted this. I for one hope that it works. I am in the process of getting a supplier or two for SH, we have a few pool suppliers, but I know the guy that runs our water sanitation plant in town and am hoping to strike a deal with them.

This site has been so useful.

Hey Chris,..yes,..I'm gonna being working on it again,..like I've stated numerous times,..it will work. I do like the idea of adding an acid to the rinse water,..just enough to break the calcium bond,..shouldn't take much,..the key I believe will be NOT ever letting it dry,..thats why doing it during morning hours or with cloud cover is beneficial. And along with rinsing and a VERY mild acidic solution,..it may be possible to get this to at least a working possibility,...won't be cost efffective,...but making it work is first and foremost,..and the rest to be dealt with later.

Learning good spraying techniques is 3/4 of the battle against the white hazing on the surroundings. Sure there will always be some caught in the breeze,..but getting it mostly on the roof is key,Ha,Ha...

With proper spraying technique,..and a good cmbination of rinsing,..proper time of day,..and the addition of a rinse aid it may be feasible sometime soon,..at least for some of us,..others may squawk at the extra steps,..but it may be needed someday.

I'm also thinking that once the mix is on the roof and while it is working,..you could downstream a LIGHT acid onto the roof and begin breaking the calcium up before it ever gets a chance to stick. In place of downstreaming a separate tank could also be used to apply the light acidic mix.

As you mentioned Chris,..a catalyst would be very beneficial for a couple of reasons,..first it would allow the product to work better,..and second,..if the product works faster,..it will be easier to keep from drying, because the rinsing won't seem premature.

Yes,..Tom,..I have always liked the possibility of using CH,..If you go back in the archives of TheGrimeScene site,..you'll see that I was using it back then. I've done alot of roofs with the stuff,..and it was always handy to keep on hand. I even use to wash houses with it,..I didn't buy SH for years.


Jeff

Chris ,..Seems everything I've ever seen on this says not to directly mix the two. Never really seen why or the results of what happens. You can put CH in a swimming pool which has SH,..but what we are doing is so much different than swimming pool comparisons,..

Seems like they should readily combine,..but ...

And whether it would help with the chalking or not is anyones guess...


Jeff

Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 wrote:

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Hey Chris,..yes,..I'm gonna being working on it again,..like I've stated numerous times,..it will work. I do like the idea of adding an acid to the rinse water,..just enough to break the calcium bond,..shouldn't take much,..the key I believe will be NOT ever letting it dry,..thats why doing it during morning hours or with cloud cover is beneficial. And along with rinsing and a VERY mild acidic solution,..it may be possible to get this to at least a working possibility,...won't be cost efffective,...but making it work is first and foremost,..and the rest to be dealt with later.

Learning good spraying techniques is 3/4 of the battle against the white hazing on the surroundings. Sure there will always be some caught in the breeze,..but getting it mostly on the roof is key,Ha,Ha...

With proper spraying technique,..and a good cmbination of rinsing,..proper time of day,..and the addition of a rinse aid it may be feasible sometime soon,..at least for some of us,..others may squawk at the extra steps,..but it may be needed someday.

I'm also thinking that once the mix is on the roof and while it is working,..you could downstream a LIGHT acid onto the roof and begin breaking the calcium up before it ever gets a chance to stick. In place of downstreaming a separate tank could also be used to apply the light acidic mix.

As you mentioned Chris,..a catalyst would be very beneficial for a couple of reasons,..first it would allow the product to work better,..and second,..if the product works faster,..it will be easier to keep from drying, because the rinsing won't seem premature.

Yes,..Tom,..I have always liked the possibility of using CH,..If you go back in the archives of TheGrimeScene site,..you'll see that I was using it back then. I've done alot of roofs with the stuff,..and it was always handy to keep on hand. I even use to wash houses with it,..I didn't buy SH for years.


Jeff

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 I am thinking on some things too Jeff.  Imagine a 2 hose system where you can apply, then rinse right away ?  Kind of like downstreaming.

 

Hey Art,..throw some in a bucket of water and mix it and see what you get,..see what it smells like.

The Australian guys were here before talking about Dichlor,..for some reason it wouldn't work,..not sure about the Trichlor,..or how it dissolves,..but if you have some give it a shot a let us know how it works out.

Jeff

Good point Charles!!

Jeff