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Distributors come and distributors go.  Some distributors barely give you the time of day when you call them because all that they care about is getting your order and selling you what profits them best.  How many distributors have you seen on this board that has supported the RCIA members?  I know of only one and she has been banned.  I think that is a crime in itself.  Lori with Pressure Washer Service Inc is the only distributor that has ever offered suggestions on our board on a regular basis.  When you call to place an order she offers very competitive prices and takes the time to discuss different options and what might be best.  Yes she is very busy and hard to reach.  That is because she takes more time with each customer than she should to make sure that they get what they need.  Does that make her a bad person?  No, it does not.  I believe this ban needs to be lifted ASAP before we loose a good distributor that supports our forum.  I understand that there are many members who are pro Pressure Tek.  I have nothing against Pressure Tek nor Bob.  But I have never seen him on this board debating issues or trying to help RCIA members on the forum.  Lets here some other opinions. 

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I am the new guy in town I will say I was very impressed with the way Bob returned each annoying call I made to him usually with in the hour, his prices seem fair, I had my order in about 2 days, he has helped me a lot as I am sure he does all that call him. He is most likely returning phone calls and filling orders promptly I think that is a huge help to members.

I'm not sure about the other situation I just thought I would comment on my experience with pressure tek


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I rarely have to "return" phone calls. 99% of the time, I answer the calls. When I go mobile, I forward the office phone to my cell. I hate voice mail, answering machines, etc., and don't expect my customers to have to deal with them either.

My roof cleaning arsenal is small now, but I have access to thousands of products through numerous warehouses. I can get Yamada and FloJet air pumps, ag hose, all the usual pressure washer parts, parts for Briggs, Honda, and Kohler engines and all the high pressure pump manufacturers.

I also manufacture chemicals and am currently testing a chlorine compatible surfactant.

My prices are, however, not REDICULOUSLY low. Like you, I plan on making enough money to stay in business.

A new website is in the works with a store so you can purchase products without having to call the order in, but for now, if you need something, just call or email.

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she didn't get banned for not donating the skid unit at the Tampa convention like she promised, she didn't get banned for not returning dozens of members phone calls for days and days, she got banned for one of the lowest things you can do, she tried to black male a member, she tried to cause trouble between a member and his wife and his family.

I don't care about her low prices, because she is not worth the agrivation, she is understaffed with inexperience help, and a mother that has an attitude and can't deal with the public.

Of course she participates here on this board this is where she made alot of money with free advertisement, and we all use to recommend her, but she forgot about her good customers.



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she has to return calls because she doesn't know how to run a business, she stays up all night on the board causing drama then she goes to work in the afternoon while the phones are being attended by inexperience help that can't even answer the simplest question.

I had far more bad experiences with them more than good, you get what you pay for going to them is like going to Wallmart

 

 



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Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

Distributors come and distributors go.  Some distributors barely give you the time of day when you call them because all that they care about is getting your order and selling you what profits them best.  How many distributors have you seen on this board that has supported the RCIA members?  I know of only one and she has been banned.  I think that is a crime in itself.  Lori with Pressure Washer Service Inc is the only distributor that has ever offered suggestions on our board on a regular basis.  When you call to place an order she offers very competitive prices and takes the time to discuss different options and what might be best.  Yes she is very busy and hard to reach.  That is because she takes more time with each customer than she should to make sure that they get what they need.  Does that make her a bad person?  No, it does not.  I believe this ban needs to be lifted ASAP before we loose a good distributor that supports our forum.  I understand that there are many members who are pro Pressure Tek.  I have nothing against Pressure Tek nor Bob.  But I have never seen him on this board debating issues or trying to help RCIA members on the forum.  Lets here some other opinions. 



You really cant be serious. Just because she is banned doesn't mean that you cant use her. She caused more trouble on this forum than shes worth,that is why she is no longer on here. How exactly did she support our forum? She is on other bbs's so I'm sure she isn't gonna be hurting to bad for business.

 



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When Chris called Ron Musgraves a gentlemen after his over the top obviously mentally disturbed outbursts it was then that I knew that the whole leadership of this forum were nothing but snakes.

I told Lori that she should have gone to war his you all directly but she chose to try to play nice and then I was sick and don't know what happened. Guess she finally got pissed off.

Certain leaders here whom I know have lied and have ulterior motives and I think certain others have been blindly misled.

Never forget that the RCIA is NOT an official "association" with required donor tracking or even assigned usages.



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Midtown wrote:

When Chris called Ron Musgraves a gentlemen after his over the top obviously mentally disturbed outbursts it was then that I knew that the whole leadership of this forum were nothing but snakes.

I told Lori that she should have gone to war his you all directly but she chose to try to play nice and then I was sick and don't know what happened. Guess she finally got pissed off.

Certain leaders here whom I know have lied and have ulterior motives and I think certain others have been blindly misled.

Never forget that the RCIA is NOT an official "association" with required donor tracking or even assigned usages.



You can speak your mind here Doug. If something is bothering you, or anyone else, let's talk about it ?




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she didn't get banned for not donating the skid unit at the Tampa convention like she promised, she didn't get banned for not returning dozens of members phone calls for days and days, she got banned for one of the lowest things you can do, she tried to black male a member, she tried to cause trouble between a member and his wife and his family.

I don't care about her low prices, because she is not worth the agrivation, she is understaffed with inexperience help, and a mother that has an attitude and can't deal with the public.

Of course she participates here on this board this is where she made alot of money with free advertisement, and we all use to recommend her, but she forgot about her good customers.




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Midtown wrote:

When Chris called Ron Musgraves a gentlemen after his over the top obviously mentally disturbed outbursts it was then that I knew that the whole leadership of this forum were nothing but snakes.

I told Lori that she should have gone to war his you all directly but she chose to try to play nice and then I was sick and don't know what happened. Guess she finally got pissed off.

Certain leaders here whom I know have lied and have ulterior motives and I think certain others have been blindly misled.

Never forget that the RCIA is NOT an official "association" with required donor tracking or even assigned usages.



You can speak your mind here Doug. If something is bothering you, or anyone else, let's talk about it ?


 




Really Chris? I think I have talked about the Ron Musgraves situtation repeatedly. ...

To no avail but your own praise of him.


 



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I hereby RESIGN FROM THE RCIA

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Midtown wrote:

 

Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa FL (813) 655-8777 wrote:

 

Midtown wrote:

When Chris called Ron Musgraves a gentlemen after his over the top obviously mentally disturbed outbursts it was then that I knew that the whole leadership of this forum were nothing but snakes.

I told Lori that she should have gone to war his you all directly but she chose to try to play nice and then I was sick and don't know what happened. Guess she finally got pissed off.

Certain leaders here whom I know have lied and have ulterior motives and I think certain others have been blindly misled.

Never forget that the RCIA is NOT an official "association" with required donor tracking or even assigned usages.



You can speak your mind here Doug. If something is bothering you, or anyone else, let's talk about it ?


 




Really Chris? I think I have talked about the Ron Musgraves situtation repeatedly. ...

To no avail but your own praise of him.


 

 



Well, tell me Doug, what did Ron do that was so "wrong" ? I agree, he might have been a little more diplomatic, but he was pissed, and rightfully so. Lori promised him to give away a skid in exchange for promotion, and she backed out on the deal. When we as contractors do work, and then not get paid, we get angry. Ron is no different. Ron put on one hell of a roundtable, and RCIA Social, and charged RCIA Nothing, Nada. He gave us T Shirts, for free, he promotes us, for FREE. Why wouldn't I praise him ? I  will praise any friend of the RCIA. I praise Doug from Toledo roof cleaning for doing our certified decals, Bill from Accurate for all he does, Gary in Kentucky for writing our mission statement, Mike Sullivan for all he has done. And any other RCIA Member who helps us out will get my praise as well.

If you are pissed about the Lori getting banned situation, then come out and say it, instead of being chiken chit and resigning. There are a lot of other people who are upset about the ban, so you will not be alone. The RCIA way is to talk about chit that upsets us. I assure you, I promise you, and anyone else, feel FREE to speak your mind here. No one will be "banned" for speaking their mind.


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I rarely have to "return" phone calls. 99% of the time, I answer the calls. When I go mobile, I forward the office phone to my cell. I hate voice mail, answering machines, etc., and don't expect my customers to have to deal with them either.

My roof cleaning arsenal is small now, but I have access to thousands of products through numerous warehouses. I can get Yamada and FloJet air pumps, ag hose, all the usual pressure washer parts, parts for Briggs, Honda, and Kohler engines and all the high pressure pump manufacturers.

I also manufacture chemicals and am currently testing a chlorine compatible surfactant.

My prices are, however, not REDICULOUSLY low. Like you, I plan on making enough money to stay in business.

A new website is in the works with a store so you can purchase products without having to call the order in, but for now, if you need something, just call or email.



Man now that I think about it, You have never not answer the phone.  

Russ has anything you need from roof cleaning, pressure washing, chemicals whole set-ups everything you need. Russ knows his Chit.  

 

 



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I hope we all can get thru this and continue on with what we are here for, learning from one another, teaching each other about roof cleaning and making the industry better for us and the customers we serve. I have done a lot of reading and for the most part keep my feelings to myself on a lot that go's on. As for PWP being banned than so be it, but that doesn't mean I will not use them if I need something. I have talked with Lori and I told her in my opinion where she made her mistakes and what she needed to do to fix it, it was just advice. As for what happened at the round table, I am not one to judge but I know Ron did a lot for RCIA and I wish I could have been there to meet a lot of you.

Keep in mind we are in this business to make money and grow, network and profit from what you do. Use what distributor you want to use, find the best prices or best product that makes your business grow and do well, bottom line its your choice. Let's just move forward and not bash as much and it could be a bette place for all. Just a thought, good roof cleaning days to all.


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Well, tell me Doug, what did Ron do that was so "wrong" ? I agree, he might have been a little more diplomatic, but he was pissed, and rightfully so. Lori promised him to give away a skid in exchange for promotion, and she backed out on the deal. When we as contractors do work, and then not get paid, we get angry. Ron is no different. Ron put on one hell of a roundtable, and RCIA Social, and charged RCIA Nothing, Nada. He gave us T Shirts, for free, he promotes us, for FREE. Why wouldn't I praise him ? I  will praise any friend of the RCIA. I praise Doug from Toledo roof cleaning for doing our certified decals, Bill from Accurate for all he does, Gary in Kentucky for writing our mission statement, Mike Sullivan for all he has done. And any other RCIA Member who helps us out will get my praise as well.

If you are pissed about the Lori getting banned situation, then come out and say it, instead of being chiken chit and resigning. There are a lot of other people who are upset about the ban, so you will not be alone. The RCIA way is to talk about chit that upsets us. I assure you, I promise you, and anyone else, feel FREE to speak your mind here. No one will be "banned" for speaking their mind.

 



I have resigned b/c I am angry over the deterioration of the forum (yes, I told you the forum was going to Chit and you just said you haven't been here much), angry that Ron is a psycho and that anyone would be expected to deal with him and that you see nothing wrong with him, and angry that you appear to cashing in in whatever ways you can.

I'm done with it and I'm done with you. I've learned a lot here and I thank you for that. But I won't be associated with the RCIA any longer. I certainly wouldn't want my customers to be directed here and see what goes on.

You either don't see what's going on or you are in on it.

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Well, tell me Doug, what did Ron do that was so "wrong" ? I agree, he might have been a little more diplomatic, but he was pissed, and rightfully so. Lori promised him to give away a skid in exchange for promotion, and she backed out on the deal. When we as contractors do work, and then not get paid, we get angry. Ron is no different. Ron put on one hell of a roundtable, and RCIA Social, and charged RCIA Nothing, Nada. He gave us T Shirts, for free, he promotes us, for FREE. Why wouldn't I praise him ? I  will praise any friend of the RCIA. I praise Doug from Toledo roof cleaning for doing our certified decals, Bill from Accurate for all he does, Gary in Kentucky for writing our mission statement, Mike Sullivan for all he has done. And any other RCIA Member who helps us out will get my praise as well.

If you are pissed about the Lori getting banned situation, then come out and say it, instead of being chiken chit and resigning. There are a lot of other people who are upset about the ban, so you will not be alone. The RCIA way is to talk about chit that upsets us. I assure you, I promise you, and anyone else, feel FREE to speak your mind here. No one will be "banned" for speaking their mind.

 



I have resigned b/c I am angry over the deterioration of the forum (yes, I told you the forum was going to Chit and you just said you haven't been here much), angry that Ron is a psycho and that anyone would be expected to deal with him and that you see nothing wrong with him, and angry that you appear to cashing in in whatever ways you can.

I'm done with it and I'm done with you. I've learned a lot here and I thank you for that. But I won't be associated with the RCIA any longer. I certainly wouldn't want my customers to be directed here and see what goes on.

You either don't see what's going on or you are in on it.

Yo


 

 



The forum WILL go to Chit Doug, if we have hidden resentments and anger.
This is why it is the RCIA way to talk about our differences.
I want to make one thing clear to you. I make very little money with this Forum.
in fact, when the chit was going on with Dave Westerman, I actually printed out ALL my Pay Pal donations and posted them! Pay Pal allows you to do this. It came to about 1300.00 in 2 years. I spend 2 times the time on this Forum as I do in my own business, and all I have to show for it is 1300 dollars, and people like you inferring I am a crook.
Even if I did make a fortune off this forum, and I don't, so what ?  What IF I charged 200 people 250 dollars a year for certification ? That would be a nice chunk of change for me, but look at it thiis way ? Just the work you will get from being on this forum, and the certification that allows you to steal jobs from your competitors alone is worth that ?

it never ceases to amaze me why some people will not complain that the trailer sales guy made a thousand dolllars on them, or the truck dealership made 2 or 3 grand as well. You KNOW they made some money, but so freaking what ? That truck and trailer will make you 50 grand, or more.
So, it is "ok" for them to make a little money, yet the guy who taught you, gives you the certification tool to steal jobs from competitors, and lets you post on the highest visibility roof cleaning forum in the world is a "crook".
This is pissing me off Doug. I run one of the busiest roof cleaning outfits in Tampa.
I often sell and make more in one DAY, then I have ever made total with this forum.



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Charge what you like, take whatever kickbacks you like.


The formula is out there, and the RCIA formula is primitive anyway.


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