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clay_ballard11 · Guest

Employees Vs. Cost

NJ Roof Cleaner · Guest

Clay,

Do you have a business rightnow?

is you first time on business?

RoofBright of Florida · Guest

Your question is vague. How long have you been established? There are several multiples to this question.

There are several methods of bringing on employees. Commission based or hourly.

You must sit down and establish an average pertcentage of profiit per job, the number of jobs as well as ALL operating expenses.

I cold go on and on, but this will give you an idea of what you must do to see if an employee(s) are beneficial.

NJ Roof Cleaner · Guest

RoofBright of Florida wrote:

Your question is vague. How long have you been established? There are several multiples to this question.

There are several methods of bringing on employees. Commission based or hourly.

You must sit down and establish an average pertcentage of profiit per job, the number of jobs as well as ALL operating expenses.

I cold go on and on, but this will give you an idea of what you must do to see if an employee(s) are beneficial.

Well said Gary!!

NJ Roof Cleaner · Guest

Clay ,

You Don't really need an "Army" to get started on the Roof cleaning busines!

most of us started by our selfs and wifes,

well, I did!!

Roof Cleaning North Jersey(908)674-3392 · Guest

If you're just starting out, most guys use a ground man to help with jobs. Someone to spray plants and landscaping down and keep it wet in the areas receiving overspray as you move along the roof.

You will get more responses if you fill out your biography and signature. It lets people know your not trying to hide anything and you're here to be an active member. Some people come here to get enough info to start up and run.

clay_ballard11 · Guest

Thanks for the advice I'll do that.

PowerClean · Guest

Eastern wrote:

You will get more responses if you fill out your biography and signature. It lets people know your not trying to hide anything and you're here to be an active member. Some people come here to get enough info to start up and run.

Great point Brian.

PrestigePressure · Guest

My business consists of myself and one other man, aka "the ground man." Once business starts booming and I'm doing more than 3 or 4 roofs a day then I might consider a crew, but for now a two man team is more than effecient.

jeremymcnelson · Guest

my brother said nice comment re RoofBright of Florida...that's all that has to be said.

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-- Edited by jeremymcnelson on Thursday 15th of April 2010 03:53:20 PM

-- Edited by jeremymcnelson on Thursday 15th of April 2010 03:54:03 PM

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 · guest

Employees are the largest overhead in most business, it will take getting a working systeem and fairly consistent work before you can clearly see your numbers. The numbers will change based on how much work you do and what you charge equalling a daily average for income and expense.

Roof Cleaning Corpus Christi TX · Guest

This is a good thread.

I only use 1 helper on most jobs, they can usually keep up with the watering of plants and grass and I always tell them that if I am going too fast to let me know so I can slow down, we don't want to go too fast and take risks.

Guest

Well lets be honest on couple of points here;
I'm sure it would be of no surprise to find out that alot if not most of the members on here are just paying their help cash with no workman's comp or payroll taxes to worry about.
Ideally setting up appropriately is the thing to do,...but how many here really do. Because this work can be inconsistent, it would be very tough to do every thing by the book,....especially for startups,...and ironically this is the most important time to have help.

I have no trouble doing roofs myself, but years ago it was nice and beneficial to have help.

The other thing to consider when gathering up help,..pick and choose with caution,...without some real insight and knowledge of your "helper",...you will soon be seeing his/her flyers out there. And can you blame them,...really? It's dog eat dog man,....so you must choose not to feed the dogs.

Jeff

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Apr 20, 2010

Well said Jeffrey. When you hire an employee get ready for a lot of extra paper work. ie IRS 941s, 940s, unenployement insurance etc... When you find a good employee it is hard too keep them during the slow months so that may even having to hire them on as salary.

propressurewashing · Guest

Every once in a while we run into a commercial project where the person in charge has all kinds of questions about workman's comp and other regulatory stuff. I have found that those projects are a waste of time anyways because that same person will wait until they get 15 bids and then decide not to have the job done.....life of a pressure washer!

I have 1 guy that works average of 5 days a week and he has a few more that he uses when things get crazy or a project calls for more help. I pay my him, he pays them and we all worry about our own taxes.

Daniel Simmons
Sugar Land Window Cleaning Company
Roof Cleaning Sugar Land TX

Baltimore MD Roof Cleaning 410-482-4367 · guest

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 wrote:

Well said Jeffrey. When you hire an employee get ready for a lot of extra paper work. ie IRS 941s, 940s, unenployement insurance etc... When you find a good employee it is hard too keep them during the slow months so that may even having to hire them on as salary.

Impossible to keep them in the slow months is more like it, lol. If you are hiring make up a non-compete. It can be simple, I pledge not to use any knowledge in this field learned here etc.. for so many years past my employment termination. If you can afford it have a lawyer right it up (more like a lawyers intern), along with your guarantee.

Roof Cleaning Little Rock Arkansas · Guest

Raystown Roof Cleaning Central PA 1-800-236-0322 wrote:

Well lets be honest on couple of points here;
I'm sure it would be of no surprise to find out that alot if not most of the members on here are just paying their help cash with no workman's comp or payroll taxes to worry about.
Ideally setting up appropriately is the thing to do,...but how many here really do. Because this work can be inconsistent, it would be very tough to do every thing by the book,....especially for startups,...and ironically this is the most important time to have help.

I have no trouble doing roofs myself, but years ago it was nice and beneficial to have help.

The other thing to consider when gathering up help,..pick and choose with caution,...without some real insight and knowledge of your "helper",...you will soon be seeing his/her flyers out there. And can you blame them,...really? It's dog eat dog man,....so you must choose not to feed the dogs.

Jeff

Let the dogs try if they want.... It wont take them long to realize theyre eating cold hotdogs instead of steak.

Roof Cleaning Katy Texas (281) 392-2304 · Apr 20, 2010

I have 1 guy that works average of 5 days a week and he has a few more that he uses when things get crazy or a project calls for more help. I pay my him, he pays them and we all worry about our own taxes.

That only works if you subcontract work out. If they work for you, on your own equipment, and you run the show then they are an employee and you legally have to take taxes, etc out of their paycheck.

Roof Cleaning Corpus Christi TX · Guest

Like what Marcus said, there is a list of 5 or more things that have to be met for someone to be classified legally as a subcontractor.
1. They have their own transportation to and from the jobsite.
2. They have their own tools to do the job and will not borrow tools from you.
3. They will know how to do the job without you being there to supervise them.

I forgot the others on the list but basically they have to meet all of them, not just some to be subcontractors. If not then taxes have to be taken out and if they are not paid by the subcontractor, the IRS can make you pay them along with penalties and interest.

This is some of the stuff that my CPA talks to me about every year.

Team Donovan · Guest

can't you just pay them cash, act as if they are in business for themselves and 1099 them at the end of the year? im new and am still learning also. so if thats a stupid respones dont judge me. ha

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