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I was at the local plumbing supply house and checking out ball valves and  adapters.
I could not find a 3/4 male to 5/8 female adapter to upsize the ball valve to garden hose size. Am I gatting the wrong idea from the picture I looked at !!!
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We offer a brass or poly fitting for a good price. Email or call me with any questions.

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Home Depot or Loews. Its a 3/4" male x hose fitting.

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Which picture did you look at?

You need a Female Garden Hose Thread x 3/4" Male Pipe Thread.
3/4" FHT x 3/4" MPT for the bottom of your 3/4" ball valve.

Your valve screws onto your Male Garden Thread end of your hose.

This setup allows for easy replacement of standard garden hose and regular garden hose guns, if you are out in the field and need a quick fix.

Do not use plastic fittings or hose clamps on your hose.

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I found the ball valves just the male to female adaptes threads would note line up the plumping threading would not crattle the machine threading correctly. I found the the quick connect for the tips.

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ask for 3/4MIP to 3/4FHT..that is the exact name of what you are looking for. It will be labeled that way.

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Yes, thanks Bill. I was one letter off. Here it is.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=24317-143-PP25066&lpage=none


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Keep it Simple, Just ask for 3/4 pipe (M) to Garden Hose (Fem) all garden hose fittings are the same (from my understanding). Every body has them . I like Ace Hareware when it comes to plumbing supplies..

Hope this helps.

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We just get our Ball Valves from Lowes/Home Depot
But these are very good ball valves http://www.haywardflowcontrol.com/pages/pro_mv_01.html
I have used them before, with great results.

A vented ball valve is best for roof cleaning chemical use BTW.
Or, do what we do, buy whatever, and just replace.
It is all good, whatever you do!

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Thank for the help guys.Im going this weekend to get supplies.
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will do mildew wrote:

Thank for the help guys.Im going this weekend to get supplies.
leith




Here is some great reading for everyone!
Enjoy My Brothers
Sodium Hypochlorite Ball Valve Applications
 

Sodium Hypochlorite posses some unique qualities that have to be understood if you are going to be able to select a valve for that type of service.  Because of their excellent chemical resistance, plastic valves are widely used in sodium Hypochlorite applications. But in many cases, the wrong type of valve is put into this service and problems, some potentially dangerous, develop.

Sodium Hypochlorite is inherently an unstable compound. Two things can happen to it in a piping system that will affect the choice of a valve. Sodium Hypochlorite can decompose over time, which results in the formation of crystalline salts, and as it decomposes, one of the decomposition by-products is oxygen gas.

Because they are the most common type of plastic valve, True Union Ball Valves are often used in sodium hypochlorite service. This type of valve may work out fine in some applications, particularly in 2" and under sizes, but in many other they won't.

The main problem with ball valves, especially those over 2" in size, in sodium hypochlorite service is the crystallization problem When the valve is operated, the ball turns and liquid is trapped in the cavity between the ball and the valve body. The trapped sodium hypochloirte starts to decompose and crystal begin to form. The crystalline salts adhere to the surfaces of the ball and seals causing a "freezing" of the valve making it in-operable. When the valve is operated, the torque required to do so, may be greater than the strength of the valve stem causing it to break. But that's just the start of the problem. Now the valve has to be taken out of service to be repaired. If oxygen gas has formed behind the ball it is now pressurized. When the ball is freed up and turned, the pressure of the oxygen gas will blow out any liquid sodium hypochlorite trapped behind the ball.  A dangerous situation.

These types of problems are most likely to occur in valves larger than 2" that are operated infrequently. And also in valves installed at the bottom of tanks where precipitated impurities could get into the valves and cause accelerated decomposition of the sodium hypochlorite.

A plastic, PVC butterfly valve with EPDM or Hypalon seals is often a better choice for sodium hypochlorite services in pipelines 2" and larger. Butterfly valves are less prone to freezing up than are ball valves because of the formation of crystallite salts on the sealing surfaces of the valve. For smaller size pipe lines a plastic diaphragm valve may be a better choice than a ball valve for the same reasons. Remember that all applications are unique and these recommendations may, or may not apply, in all cases. Sodium Hypochlorite is a potential dangerous process media and Material Safety Data Sheets should be consulted for additional information and safety precautions taken before making any determination is made regarding the application.

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Copyright HAYWARD Industrial Products, Inc. 1999

 



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Where do find all of this stuff?

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I just got a all flo dual manifold. (yay!) Tested single tank...works great...now I want to install ball valves so I can isolate tanks.

I think it would be easier to install the ball valve connecting it to the all flo directly but the only 3/8 size I see is this which is only rated for 125 psi. Would that be okay?

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/
items/3CGK8?cm_mmc=Google%20Base-_
-Plumbing-_-Valves-_-3CGK8

Alternately I'd have to use fittings and adapt one? Chris mentioned these above: http://www.haywardflowcontrol.com/pdf
/_manual_valves/True_Union_Ball_Valves.pdf


I guess I'd have to cut the tubing to use that?

Lori suggested spears but I only see 1/2 as the smallest there? I could use that and use pipe fittings?

http://12.107.25.236/smcweb/EINM027.pgm?CurLiblObj=SMCPRO&Tab=VLVS&STRNRS&Boo
k=V-1P1&Rndm=066378713#True%20Union%
202000%20Industrial%20Vented/Bleach%20Ball%20Valves



search for: 1839V-005


Thanks!  Pictures coming soon...


-- Edited by Midtown on Friday 12th of February 2010 03:44:20 PM

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Midtown wrote:

I just got a all flo dual manifold. (yay!) Tested single tank...works great...now I want to install ball valves so I can isolate tanks.

I think it would be easier to install the ball valve connecting it to the all flo directly but the only 3/8 size I see is this which is only rated for 125 psi. Would that be okay?

http://www.grainger.com/
Grainger/items/3CGK8?cm_m
mc=Google%20Base-_
-Plumbing-_-Valves-_-3CGK8

Alternately I'd have to use fittings and adapt one? Chris mentioned these above: http://www.haywardflowcontrol.
com/pdf/_manual_valves/True_Union_Ball_Valves.pdf



I guess I'd have to cut the tubing to use that?

Lori suggested spears but I only see 1/2 as the smallest there? I could use that and use pipe fittings?

http://12.107.25.236/smcweb/EINM027.pgm?CurLiblObj=SMCPRO&Tab=VLVS&STRNRS&Book=V-1P1&Rndm=066378713#Tru
e%20Union%202000%20Industrial%
20Vented/Bleach%20Ball%20Valves


search for: 1839V-005


Thanks!  Pictures coming soon...


-- Edited by Midtown on Friday 12th of February 2010 03:44:20 PM




You will be OK with those.
However, ball valves are NOT linear.
That means turn just a little bit, and things can change radically.
This May be OK, just try it ?
Or, why not use soft chemical tubing on the intakes, and use a pinch valve mounted on outside of tubing to regulate flow ?
The more connections you make, the more leaks down the road.
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_viewitem.
aspx?idproduct=FT0002&child=FT0002&utm_s
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That's pretty neat. I might try that later on. KISS is my theme though right now. Still learning :D

If both tanks pulled right you could truly be precise with mixing and the pinch tubes...

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We just received sch 80 metering valves! This would help. They have viton seals.

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Brass vs pvc ball valves?

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PVC valves are more chemically resistant than brass.

I like the Banjo or Norwesco poly valves better than PVC.

They are both chemically resistant, but the Banjo or Norwesco valves are smoother.

The cheaper PVC valves work fine, but they tend to be stiffer.

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I like Heyward, or Hayward Ball Valves, however they spell it.


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Where do you get the different valves? Besides home depot or the local hardware store.

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