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confuseTHE NEW GUY HAS ANOTHER QUESTION, I SEE THAT A LOT OF YOU GUYS DON'T RINSE. WHEN YOU HAVE HEAVY MOSS ETC. ON THE ROOF DO YOU STILL NOT RINSE AND ALSO WHEN A SECOND APPLICATION IS NEEDED BECAUSE THE ROOF IS SO BAD DO YOU RINSE IN BETWEEN APPLICATIONS ,THANKS AGIAN FOR THE HELP VINNY



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I never rinse anymore

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Why rinse when Mother Nature Does such an excellent job ALL on her own?

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Have any of you ever had a problem if the rain was light and failed to dilute the run off enough. Or does the fact that it sits on the roof longer reduce that risk?

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I was wondering how long I can tell a client there roof will stay clean. I have looked and looked but can not find it on the board. I dont want to repeat questions that are here already, but I cant find the answer. Thanks

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Depends on the location and the weather. The further south you go the faster the mold will grow.  The warmer and wetter climates grow more mold.

If I remember correctly the guys in Florida are getting about 1-2 years.

I offer 3 year warranties in NC. Some can go 5 years without streaking here in NC.

I've had to go behind many competitors who have no idea what they are doing.  They use the wrong chemicals and blast away with a pressure washer.  These roofs start growing mold after 2 years in Greensboro.

It also depends on tree cover/shade and the angle the roof faces the sun.  East/West roofs can go much longer without streaks than North/South roofs.  The north side always gets the most mold and streaks the fastest.  The pitch and color of the roof also will be a factor.

The further north you are, the roofs go longer, 5+ years. Not sure about the rest of the country like Texas, the southwest, & California. I would assume the drier states with deserts don't have as much mold. I know the Northwest has a very wet moldy climate.



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I was wondering how long I can tell a client there roof will stay clean. I have looked and looked but can not find it on the board. I dont want to repeat questions that are here already, but I cant find the answer. Thanks



Depends a lot on the climate, Code Blue.

Where are you located in the USA exactly?

That will give a good idea and an indicator for us to give you a good ballpark of average clean time between maintenance cleanings.

Mike Sullivan has pretty much nailed it and provided you with a majority of your answer.

Way to Go Mike!

 



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Thanks Dave!

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Here in Pa I tell my customers to expect at least two years, that is not a guarantee,...but what they can expect. It's actually like 4-6 years, but I like to cover myself and also I know the customer will not be disappointed when it begins to show up in 3 years. depends so much on climate and what type of year it is. Too much for me to guarantee,..but that's just me. If I would see traces starting to show up after a year I would go touch it up free of charge. But I also tell people those numbers don't tell the whole story,...meaning,...in 2-4 years it won't be to the degree it is now, just means it may begin to show traces. There's a big difference in perception, when you say 2 years, be sure to explain....... "It won't be like it is now in 2 years, but may show traces" Or whatever number suits your work. Hope that's understandable.

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I am located in southern indiana. Posey county to be exact.... very humid, what with two rivers meeting where I live!

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I would guess it's similar to Jeff's area.

Maybe the streaks would appear one year sooner than his area because of the humidity from the rivers.

But don't quote me on that though. I don't have any experience working there.

Like Jeff said, say 2 years to be safe.


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Raystown Roof Cleaning wrote:

Here in Pa I tell my customers to expect at least two years, that is not a guarantee,...but what they can expect. It's actually like 4-6 years, but I like to cover myself and also I know the customer will not be disappointed when it begins to show up in 3 years. depends so much on climate and what type of year it is. Too much for me to guarantee,..but that's just me. If I would see traces starting to show up after a year I would go touch it up free of charge. But I also tell people those numbers don't tell the whole story,...meaning,...in 2-4 years it won't be to the degree it is now, just means it may begin to show traces. There's a big difference in perception, when you say 2 years, be sure to explain....... "It won't be like it is now in 2 years, but may show traces" Or whatever number suits your work. Hope that's understandable.

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Pretty good explanation Jeff. I tell my customers the same thing down here. It all depends on how much rain we may get in the season, the mold and spore count, humidity etc...I normally tell them that they should be good for at least 2-3yrs depending on these conditions but also encourage them to get on a yearly maintenance program to ensure that their Tile or Shingle Roof Stays Clean.




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     The best answer is: STOP posting in ALL CAPS!!!

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Thanks for the help ! i thought we were here to learn roof cleaninig,using upper or lower case doesn't help me clean a roof ,picking at things like this is not good for a learnig forum no

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Is there any kind of "rule of thumb" when it comes to avoiding certain jobs? I can't seem to find the answer to this question. I can imagine that you have seen some scary roofs in your day

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Very high roofs that are too dangerous or too high for your ladder or unaccessable with a lift. Some houses you can't fit a bucket crane or lift to allow you to get close enough to the roof.



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On some roofs, it's OK to "just say no" if you don't feel safe doing them as a new roof cleaner.

If you have experience with a full body harness with static staps or LIFELINES and know how to use proper tie off points and ground anchors, then this may be an option.

If you do not have this kind of background or experience and a lift is inappropriate for the unique situation then there is another option.

Many times you can call in the troops if you are close to a LARGER METROPOLITAN area with suburbs, and surrounding smaller towns, etc.

Calling in another more experienced roof cleaner, especially if it is a big job gets you exposure to another crews techniques and skill set and you can learn a great deal by watching others that may be , for now, more qualified and better prepared.

SAFETY FIRST!

Using another, more experienced roof cleaner is not a crime. If you have the job pretty well in the bag, sometimes if you can come to terms with another Roof Cleaning Contractor you can co-op and they will do the BIGGER jobs and you can watch and STIILL receive a BIRD DOG FEE (small payout from the job for the referral).

Doing smaller Ranch style residential jobs then moving onto 2 story, then more custom roofs later gives a roof cleaning newbie, some practice to try out and develop techniques and his/her skill set before being overwhelmed with properly,safely performing a large job on an expensive home with many dormers and valleys and gables that can be REALLY tough to clean unless you have a base of experience to draw from.


Hope this helps!

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thanks a lot guys. this forum is very helpful. I look forward to posting my first jobs pics. Hopefully they will be coming soon!

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I have been in the home improvement business for 30 plus yeary now. One of the hardest things to learn is knowing when to walk away from a job. Believe me, I have sold jobs that I priced so high that I thought there is no way that the customer will buy it. But, when they have, it just wasn't worth it. I have learned to explain to the customer the reason that I cannot do the job. Be honest, if you know of some one that can handle it, refer them.  The customer will appreacate it and you may just save your a**.     Rule of thumb.....When in dought walk...When its not safe RUN.

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